From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: RE: The xwidget branch origin story Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 15:28:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3dd82431-509e-4d2f-ae03-6a7674c96a02@default> References: <868u5n6lsi.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1448407754 5896 80.91.229.3 (24 Nov 2015 23:29:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 23:29:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-tangents@gnu.org To: John Wiegley , Andy Moreton Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 25 00:29:00 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a1N19-0000mh-VQ for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2015 00:29:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41996 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a1N16-00036z-3y for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:28:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53776) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a1N13-00036S-Ds for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:28:54 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a1N10-0000zz-7d for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:28:53 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:51522) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a1N10-0000zZ-1K for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:28:50 -0500 Original-Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id tAONSlYb012736 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 24 Nov 2015 23:28:47 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id tAONSldL024500 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 24 Nov 2015 23:28:47 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0019.oracle.com (abhmp0019.oracle.com [141.146.116.25]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id tAONSlam002389; Tue, 24 Nov 2015 23:28:47 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.tangents:31 Archived-At: > > Emacs already has lisp/widget.el and lisp/wid-edit.el with a set of > > widget-* functions used by customize. >=20 > > Any name using widget will lead to confusion - please try to find a nam= e > > that does not clash with an existing feature. >=20 > Andy makes an excellent point: "widgets" (without clarification) have a > precise meaning, so "Emacs widgets" vs. "emacs-widgets" would cause a > great deal of confusion. >=20 > We need another name for these interactive objects that can be inserted > into a buffer, whose functionality is not implemented by Emacs itself. > Sort of like... hosted components, gadgets? That was my point as well. I said: Since `xwidget' is misleading people, and the `x' doesn't help in any way, please just rename it. But we also already have Emacs ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ code concerning widgets, so maybe try to come up with a name that ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ is specific to these particular widgets or their use. ^^^^^