* C-i and TAB
@ 2002-10-17 9:12 Boris H.
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From: Boris H. @ 2002-10-17 9:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi,
my Emacs 21.1.1 reads C-i as TAB. I want to remove this binding to rebind
C-i. I tried
(global-unset-key "\C-i")
which had no effect.
How do I make Emacs read C-i as C-i only?
Boris
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* C-i and tab
@ 2002-10-31 13:33 Boris H.
2002-10-31 14:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Boris H. @ 2002-10-31 13:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi,
Emacs 21 reads C-i as Tab. How can I change this so I can remap C-i without
affecting tab? I tried all sorts of global-set-key and -unset-key without
luck.
Boris
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* Re: C-i and tab
2002-10-31 13:33 C-i and tab Boris H.
@ 2002-10-31 14:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2002-10-31 14:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Boris H. wrote:
> Emacs 21 reads C-i as Tab. How can I change this so I can remap C-i without
> affecting tab? I tried all sorts of global-set-key and -unset-key without
> luck.
You could remap [tab] (the function key) to what C-i is mapped now, and
then remap C-i to something else. Note that this will not work on
character terminals where the TAB key produces C-i, so Emacs cannot
distinguish between them.
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* Re: C-i and tab
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@ 2002-10-31 15:26 ` Boris H.
2002-10-31 18:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Boris H. @ 2002-10-31 15:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> You could remap [tab] (the function key) to what C-i is mapped now, and
> then remap C-i to something else. Note that this will not work on
> character terminals where the TAB key produces C-i, so Emacs cannot
> distinguish between them.
I've just tried it, but it doesn't work:
(global-set-key [(tab)] 'indent-for-tab-command)
(global-set-key [(control i)] 'ispell)
When I press C-h k C-i, Emacs tells me that TAB runs the command
lisp-indent-line.
Boris
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* Re: C-i and tab
2002-10-31 15:26 ` C-i and tab Boris H.
@ 2002-10-31 18:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2002-10-31 18:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
> From: "Boris H." <nosp@m.de>
> Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:26:57 +0100
>
> Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>
> > You could remap [tab] (the function key) to what C-i is mapped now, and
> > then remap C-i to something else. Note that this will not work on
> > character terminals where the TAB key produces C-i, so Emacs cannot
> > distinguish between them.
>
> I've just tried it, but it doesn't work:
>
> (global-set-key [(tab)] 'indent-for-tab-command)
Try this:
(define-key function-key-map [tab] 'indent-for-tab-command)
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* Re: C-i and tab
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@ 2002-10-31 21:25 ` Stefan Monnier <foo@acm.com>
2002-11-04 9:57 ` Boris H.
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From: Stefan Monnier <foo@acm.com> @ 2002-10-31 21:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> "Eli" == Eli Zaretskii <eliz@is.elta.co.il> writes:
> (define-key function-key-map [tab] 'indent-for-tab-command)
You mean (define-key global-map [tab] 'indent-for-tab-command) ?
Stefan
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* Re: C-i and tab
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2002-10-31 21:25 ` Stefan Monnier <foo@acm.com>
@ 2002-11-04 9:57 ` Boris H.
2002-11-07 7:48 ` maierh
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From: Boris H. @ 2002-11-04 9:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> Try this:
>
> (define-key function-key-map [tab] 'indent-for-tab-command)
It still does not work. Emacs keeps reading C-i as tab. Is there no way to
change this?
The same is true for C-m and ret.
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* Re: C-i and tab
2002-11-04 9:57 ` Boris H.
@ 2002-11-07 7:48 ` maierh
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From: maierh @ 2002-11-07 7:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
"Boris H." <nosp@m.de> writes:
> It still does not work. Emacs keeps reading C-i as tab. Is there no
> way to change this? The same is true for C-m and ret.
What's wrong and why do you want to change that? C-i is tab and C-m is
RET.
Harald
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* C-i and TAB
@ 2013-02-07 15:21 Ivan Kanis
2013-02-07 16:00 ` Andreas Schwab
2013-02-07 16:44 ` Stefan Monnier
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From: Ivan Kanis @ 2013-02-07 15:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Emacs Development List
How come Emacs for X can't distinguish between C-i and TAB? I understand
why that happens on a terminal, but on X it should be possible...
--
Ivan Kanis
http://ivan.kanis.fr
Si jeunesse savait, si vieillesse pouvait.
-- Henri Estienne
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* Re: C-i and TAB
2013-02-07 15:21 C-i and TAB Ivan Kanis
@ 2013-02-07 16:00 ` Andreas Schwab
2013-02-07 16:44 ` Stefan Monnier
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From: Andreas Schwab @ 2013-02-07 16:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ivan Kanis; +Cc: Emacs Development List
Ivan Kanis <banana@kanis.fr> writes:
> How come Emacs for X can't distinguish between C-i and TAB?
Because C-i and TAB are just two names for the same thing.
> I understand why that happens on a terminal, but on X it should be
> possible...
Try <tab> instead.
Andreas.
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* Re: C-i and TAB
2013-02-07 15:21 C-i and TAB Ivan Kanis
2013-02-07 16:00 ` Andreas Schwab
@ 2013-02-07 16:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-07 17:21 ` Ivan Kanis
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From: Stefan Monnier @ 2013-02-07 16:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ivan Kanis; +Cc: Emacs Development List
> How come Emacs for X can't distinguish between C-i and TAB? I understand
> why that happens on a terminal, but on X it should be possible...
Emacs definitely distinguished between the two.
But it has a function-key-map entry that turns `tab' (the event
generated by your TAB key) into a C-i when there's no binding for `tab'.
Stefan
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* Re: C-i and TAB
2013-02-07 16:44 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2013-02-07 17:21 ` Ivan Kanis
2013-02-07 18:19 ` Stefan Monnier
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From: Ivan Kanis @ 2013-02-07 17:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: Ivan Kanis, Emacs Development List
>> How come Emacs for X can't distinguish between C-i and TAB? I understand
>> why that happens on a terminal, but on X it should be possible...
>
> Emacs definitely distinguished between the two.
> But it has a function-key-map entry that turns `tab' (the event
> generated by your TAB key) into a C-i when there's no binding for `tab'.
Not in trunk:
emacs -Q
(global-set-key (kbd "C-i") 'foo)
(global-set-key (kbd "TAB") 'bar)
TAB -> Symbol's function definition is void: bar
C-i -> Symbol's function definition is void: bar
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* Re: C-i and TAB
2013-02-07 17:21 ` Ivan Kanis
@ 2013-02-07 18:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-07 18:23 ` Ivan Kanis
2013-02-07 19:47 ` Drew Adams
0 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2013-02-07 18:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ivan Kanis; +Cc: Ivan Kanis, Emacs Development List
> (global-set-key (kbd "C-i") 'foo)
> (global-set-key (kbd "TAB") 'bar)
`kbd's syntax defines TAB as equivalent to C-i, so the above two
instructions bind the same key.
Try
(global-set-key [?\C-i] 'foo)
(global-set-key [tab] 'bar)
Stefan
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* Re: C-i and TAB
2013-02-07 18:19 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2013-02-07 18:23 ` Ivan Kanis
2013-02-07 19:47 ` Drew Adams
1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Ivan Kanis @ 2013-02-07 18:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: Emacs Development List
>> (global-set-key (kbd "C-i") 'foo)
>> (global-set-key (kbd "TAB") 'bar)
>
> `kbd's syntax defines TAB as equivalent to C-i, so the above two
> instructions bind the same key.
>
> Try
>
> (global-set-key [?\C-i] 'foo)
> (global-set-key [tab] 'bar)
Great! Thank you.
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* RE: C-i and TAB
2013-02-07 18:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-07 18:23 ` Ivan Kanis
@ 2013-02-07 19:47 ` Drew Adams
2013-02-07 23:56 ` Xue Fuqiao
1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2013-02-07 19:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Stefan Monnier', 'Ivan Kanis'
Cc: 'Ivan Kanis', 'Emacs Development List'
> > (global-set-key (kbd "C-i") 'foo)
> > (global-set-key (kbd "TAB") 'bar)
>
> `kbd's syntax defines TAB as equivalent to C-i, so the above two
> instructions bind the same key.
>
> Try
> (global-set-key [?\C-i] 'foo)
> (global-set-key [tab] 'bar)
Or just this, no?
(global-set-key (kbd "C-i") 'foo)
(global-set-key (kbd "<tab>") 'bar)
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* Re: C-i and TAB
2013-02-07 19:47 ` Drew Adams
@ 2013-02-07 23:56 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-02-08 1:35 ` Ivan Kanis
2013-02-08 2:46 ` Drew Adams
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From: Xue Fuqiao @ 2013-02-07 23:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Drew Adams
Cc: 'Emacs Development List', 'Stefan Monnier',
'Ivan Kanis', 'Ivan Kanis'
On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 11:47:34 -0800
"Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote:
> > > (global-set-key (kbd "C-i") 'foo)
> > > (global-set-key (kbd "TAB") 'bar)
> >
> > `kbd's syntax defines TAB as equivalent to C-i, so the above two
> > instructions bind the same key.
> >
> > Try
> > (global-set-key [?\C-i] 'foo)
> > (global-set-key [tab] 'bar)
>
>
> Or just this, no?
>
> (global-set-key (kbd "C-i") 'foo)
> (global-set-key (kbd "<tab>") 'bar)
Their effect should be the same.
--
Best regards, Xue Fuqiao.
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/XueFuqiao
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* Re: C-i and TAB
2013-02-07 23:56 ` Xue Fuqiao
@ 2013-02-08 1:35 ` Ivan Kanis
2013-02-08 2:46 ` Drew Adams
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From: Ivan Kanis @ 2013-02-08 1:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Xue Fuqiao
Cc: 'Stefan Monnier', Drew Adams,
'Emacs Development List'
> On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 11:47:34 -0800
> "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote:
>
>> > > (global-set-key (kbd "C-i") 'foo)
>> > > (global-set-key (kbd "TAB") 'bar)
>> >
>> > `kbd's syntax defines TAB as equivalent to C-i, so the above two
>> > instructions bind the same key.
>> >
>> > Try
>> > (global-set-key [?\C-i] 'foo)
>> > (global-set-key [tab] 'bar)
>>
>>
>> Or just this, no?
>>
>> (global-set-key (kbd "C-i") 'foo)
>> (global-set-key (kbd "<tab>") 'bar)
>
> Their effect should be the same.
>
I like Andrew's best. I have never been a fan of the "native" keybinding
representation.
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* RE: C-i and TAB
2013-02-07 23:56 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-02-08 1:35 ` Ivan Kanis
@ 2013-02-08 2:46 ` Drew Adams
1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2013-02-08 2:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Xue Fuqiao'
Cc: 'Emacs Development List', 'Stefan Monnier',
'Ivan Kanis', 'Ivan Kanis'
> > > > (global-set-key (kbd "C-i") 'foo)
> > > > (global-set-key (kbd "TAB") 'bar)
> > >
> > > Try
> > > (global-set-key [?\C-i] 'foo)
> > > (global-set-key [tab] 'bar)
> >
> > Or just this, no?
> > (global-set-key (kbd "C-i") 'foo)
> > (global-set-key (kbd "<tab>") 'bar)
>
> Their effect should be the same.
That was the point.
You can use `kbd' as originally attempted.
You just need to know the external representation <tab>.
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