From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20992: 25.0.50; `virtual-dired': (1) doc typo, (2) unclear Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 10:49:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3d083fa4-c6fb-4890-944f-19a206b4c035@default> References: <99643ea0-8a24-47b4-95ab-0c21da485539@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1436205026 18535 80.91.229.3 (6 Jul 2015 17:50:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 17:50:26 +0000 (UTC) To: 20992@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 06 19:50:13 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZCAWz-0001vD-Ed for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Jul 2015 19:50:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52239 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZCAWy-0006gB-Nx for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Jul 2015 13:50:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46410) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZCAWv-0006g2-O6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jul 2015 13:50:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZCAWq-0004Py-CD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jul 2015 13:50:09 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:40912) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZCAWq-0004Ou-8w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jul 2015 13:50:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZCAWp-0001q8-Ec for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jul 2015 13:50:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2015 17:50:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20992 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 20992-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20992.14362049887046 (code B ref 20992); Mon, 06 Jul 2015 17:50:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20992) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2015 17:49:48 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42358 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZCAWZ-0001pa-QV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jul 2015 13:49:48 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:34056) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZCAWY-0001pO-5p for 20992@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jul 2015 13:49:46 -0400 Original-Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t66HneJH012282 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for <20992@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 6 Jul 2015 17:49:40 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t66Hnddt015690 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for <20992@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 6 Jul 2015 17:49:39 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0007.oracle.com (abhmp0007.oracle.com [141.146.116.13]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t66HndvH003576 for <20992@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 6 Jul 2015 17:49:39 GMT In-Reply-To: <99643ea0-8a24-47b4-95ab-0c21da485539@default> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:104783 Archived-At: > 2. It is not very clear just what "Virtual Dired mode" is. > Apparently it is a minor mode. My bad about this being a minor mode. It is apparently just major mode Dired, with a different `mode-name' value. The mode name should perhaps not be `Virtual Dired', but `Dired (Virtual)' or some such. But see below - I don't find anything particularly "virtual" about this. > And the doc could be clearer wrt just what parts (e.g. > commands) of Dired mode are available and what parts are not. > Also, the doc says that the format is that of `ls -lR', but that > suggests that the listing is recursive, with subdirs inserted, which > is not necessarily the case. And it seems that the listing switches > are taken from the Dired buffer from which the virtual mode is derived. That part of the bug report is still appropriate. 4. It's not clear from the doc just how `virtual-dired' changes Dired mode. It doesn't seem particularly "virtual", but it's not clear what is meant by that word here. Seems that this is in fact just Dired mode, and that it is the opposite of a virtual Dired mode: it puts an ordinary `ls' listing into Dired mode, no?