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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:315542 Archived-At: On 28/01/2024 14:38, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Pretending it didn't happen and failing to discuss it is not healthy for > the project. Routine bug fixes, and uncontroversial stuff is committed > without discussion, yes. Otherwise we'd be doing nothing else but silly > discussions on emacs-devel. The addition of pcase was a boon for the project. Its uses in particularly important areas, like bytecomp, might have been a subject for discussion, but we don't really do that when all active contributors to an area of code agree with the technical decision. And they did agree, otherwise the discussion would have had materialized at the spot.