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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:259267 Archived-At: > >> Like there are already possible choices 'horizontal' and 'vertical' > >> in the user option 'completions-format', it could also support > >> a new choice like 'rich'. > > > > `rich' is a poor choice, IMO - it doesn't mean much. >=20 > This is a reference to the package ivy-rich Is it? What says that? The name itself doesn't say that. If that's important then call it `ivy-rich', not `rich'. But that just punts, no? Then someone needs to find that package and see what it says "rich" means here. Just because some other package uses a vague name like that, does that mean Emacs shouldn't do better? Might as well call it `enhanced', `special', `super', or `wonderful'. Does "rich" have a meaning that suggests something here other than "full" or "great"? > Ivy supports a richer format of completions, Which means what, exactly? Doesn't mean anything to me, except to suggest that it uses a different format that's somehow better than the other formats (how so?). > and there no reason not to do something similar > in the default completion framework. I'd suggest the opposite: there's no reason to be as unclear in the default framework. If you call it `ivy-rich' then OK. Someone can search for what that might really mean. Just one opinion. Doesn't really matter to me what you call it.