From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rustom Mody Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Speeding up Emacs load time Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 06:37:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3c8f54a2-c458-409f-ad99-7031c7d0a25e@googlegroups.com> References: <87r4ezdiiy.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87r4ez92ry.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87txjv7gen.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <26142f86-cacf-40a9-a101-fc8a37818347@googlegroups.com> <8738re4z9v.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1373982019 18029 80.91.229.3 (16 Jul 2013 13:40:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:40:19 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 16 15:40:21 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Uz5UK-000173-OD for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 15:40:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34747 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uz5UK-0000Fh-AS for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:40:20 -0400 X-Received: by 10.224.164.194 with SMTP id f2mr3437197qay.3.1373981899224; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 06:38:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.83.100 with SMTP id p4mr75669igy.15.1373981846606; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 06:37:26 -0700 (PDT) Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!t19no1706867qam.0!news-out.google.com!ij2ni362qab.0!nntp.google.com!t19no1820646qam.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: <8738re4z9v.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=59.95.38.83; posting-account=mBpa7woAAAAGLEWUUKpmbxm-Quu5D8ui Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 59.95.38.83 User-Agent: G2/1.0 Injection-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:38:19 +0000 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:199890 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:92156 Archived-At: I would like to point out that your two statements: On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:12:04 PM UTC+5:30, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Man, those C and Perl days must have been exciting! Still, I'm not > giving up on acquiring the big picture - just keep on digging, > every day... and then > I'm going to customize *everything* down to the last > detail. Emacs, the shell, the mail client, the web browser, even > the kernel process scheduler, when I get there! That's the whole > point with everything I do with computing. This is how I > communicate with technology - because that's who I am. are not exactly compatible. When I spend my time on perfecting the details, I tend to miss out the big picture. You can take it from me -- learnt by hard painful experience -- that perfectionism is not a virtue but a disease. IOW Jambunathan's advice is very good advice. And especially when I hear the tone of voice in this: > Do you know why it looks like that, and not like some stinking, > bloodsucking Windows MS Access with a white background, a blinking > cursor, a minimal font, constant popups, and lack of shortcuts and > cursor movement functionality that will have you reach for the > mouse, type, type again, type ten, twenty times as much as I've > been able to minimize it to, through years of customization, > setting up zsh and Emacs shorthands in absurdum never to have to > strike a single key that is not necessary? > > I suspect you probably don't get any of this, because if you did, > you would never say what you said with zero information about the > other person, accept that you disagreed over some silly issue. > > But, ... just for the record, I know I'm far from the only guy who > suffered physically because of love for computers. I am reminded of Erik Naggum. [Run a search and ask how far you want to go that-a-way]