From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christophe Poncy Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Apologia for CUA mode (was: Apologia for bzr) Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 22:55:24 +0100 Message-ID: <3c3e30d917e8874b43b019ecb539a258@genium.fr> References: <20140103152117.GA16679@c3po> <20140104082857.GA22010@thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1388872540 6545 80.91.229.3 (4 Jan 2014 21:55:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 21:55:40 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 04 22:55:46 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VzZC4-0000cx-KS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 22:55:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55854 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzZC4-0002mf-AQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 16:55:44 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39908) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzZBx-0002lN-9S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 16:55:43 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzZBp-0004iF-7Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 16:55:37 -0500 Original-Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.198]:35549) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzZBo-0004i4-Va for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 16:55:29 -0500 Original-Received: from mfilter16-d.gandi.net (mfilter16-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.144]) by relay6-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC1C6FB882 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2014 22:55:25 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter16-d.gandi.net Original-Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.198]) by mfilter16-d.gandi.net (mfilter16-d.gandi.net [10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Hp4Rsl7hRXrH for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2014 22:55:24 +0100 (CET) X-Originating-IP: 10.58.1.143 Original-Received: from webmail.gandi.net (unknown [10.58.1.143]) (Authenticated sender: cp@genium.fr) by relay6-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 9009AFB87F for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2014 22:55:24 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: X-Sender: cp@genium.fr User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.9.5 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 217.70.183.198 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167334 Archived-At: On 2014-01-04 16:44, Tom wrote: > Lennart Borgman gmail.com> writes: >>=20 >> It is very different in one way. An editor is a tool you start >> with. It should be convenient for everyone. Beginners may face >> a high complexity and different terms (and keyboard shortcuts) >> for rather familiar commands makes it much more difficult.The >> difference might seem small, but since it raises complexity for >> beginners it waists time for them. >=20 > Kill/yank comes to mind as obvious example. The copy/cut/paste > terminology is pretty much standard, so the various kill/yank > operations (kill-region, copy-region-as-kill, etc.) should > be mapped to these terms. FWIW, I miss those things outside emacs, it's why I am using firemacs on=20 firefox=E2=80=A6 --=20 Support free software! Join FSF: https://my.fsf.org/associate/support_freedom?referrer=3D4574