From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: Delete Help Window - restore window config Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 09:02:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3b9f0718-d5b8-4c7f-b801-cb4ac717e7fb@default> References: <20150128035737.GA1459@mail.akwebsoft.com> <20150128163414.GD1459@mail.akwebsoft.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1422464586 13196 80.91.229.3 (28 Jan 2015 17:03:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 17:03:06 +0000 (UTC) To: Tim Johnson , Emacs Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 28 18:03:02 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YGW16-0008AV-Kc for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 18:03:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55043 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YGW16-0004xZ-3J for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 12:03:00 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38020) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YGW0e-0004nH-7I for Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 12:02:38 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YGW0Z-0004EJ-W2 for Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 12:02:32 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:38404) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YGW0Z-0004Dz-Q0 for Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 12:02:27 -0500 Original-Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t0SH2NbC032352 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 28 Jan 2015 17:02:23 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.5+Sun/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t0SH2Li0018084 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 28 Jan 2015 17:02:22 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0013.oracle.com (abhmp0013.oracle.com [141.146.116.19]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t0SH2LeP013916; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 17:02:21 GMT In-Reply-To: <20150128163414.GD1459@mail.akwebsoft.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8.2 (807160) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:102338 Archived-At: > Drew has talked about his icicles mode before, gotta check that one > out closely as it may have further utility for me..... Whether you find that it does or not, individual features like key completion can serve (and have served) as food for thought for other developments (in vanilla Emacs or other packages, or even in your init file). Just thinking about such a feature can sometimes inspire other, different (possibly better) implementations and similar (possibly better) features. In this case, for example, if you find that Icicles is not something that you want to use in general, perhaps you would find the similar-sounding feature provided by `guide-key.el' useful. Or perhaps you or someone else will be inspired to write a different key-completion feature that you find preferable. Personally, I am more interested in the possibilities of interesting, maybe-useful features than in any particular package that implements them. (And whenever vanilla Emacs adopts a reasonable replacement for something I use, whether I wrote it or found it elsewhere, I am happy to be able to no longer use the non-vanilla code.) Many of the features that Icicles introduced have since found their way into other libraries (Helm, for one). That's a good thing, not a bad thing. Experimentation by users and implementors can only give us all more, and better possibilities.