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From: Phil Sainty <psainty@orcon.net.nz>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: 35351@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#35351: 27.0.50; Enable derived modes to run their own very-early 'change-major-mode-hook' code
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 11:18:31 +1200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3a0b9268-4800-1513-8422-065a74bb6b36@orcon.net.nz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvlg02qfbk.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

On 23/04/19 2:39 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> I'm now unsure whether :after-hook was intended to be interpreted
>> as "this is a bit like a *hook* which runs *after* everything
>> else has happened"; or if it meant "do this thing *after* the
>> mode *hook*" (or indeed after after-change-major-mode-hook).
> 
> Oh, you're absolutely right, it's called ":after-hook" because it
> runs after the mode-hook.

Which means :before-hook definitely isn't a good name for the new
keyword.

Should I go with :eval-before ?

And should I add :eval-after as an alias for :after-hook, for naming
symmetry?  (Even if :after-hook makes better sense than you initially
thought, it's maybe still not the best name for it.)


>> In the initial commit I've used an approach which will run the
>> parent's :before-hook
> 
> That seems backward to me.
> 
>> Possibly it should be child-before-parent on the basis that the
>> author then has more influence over the order in which things
>> happen?
> 
> Exactly.

Cool.  I'm switching that around.


-Phil





  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-22 23:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-21  2:35 bug#35351: 27.0.50; Enable derived modes to run their own very-early 'change-major-mode-hook' code Phil Sainty
2019-04-21  2:45 ` Phil Sainty
2019-04-21  6:01   ` Richard Stallman
2019-04-21  6:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-21 20:54 ` bug#35351: 27.0.50; " Stefan Monnier
2019-04-22  8:16   ` Phil Sainty
2019-04-22 14:39     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-22 23:18       ` Phil Sainty [this message]
2019-04-22 23:31         ` Phil Sainty
2019-04-23  2:08         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-23  3:52           ` Phil Sainty
2019-04-23 11:59             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-22 14:41     ` Stefan Monnier

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