From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Daniel B." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: C-f, C-b, C-n and C-p or right, left, down, up? Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 13:08:55 -0400 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <3F85961B.BD5DBFD4@smart.net> References: <1c58a7c3.0310010003.78c0fa00@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1065719490 5698 80.91.224.253 (9 Oct 2003 17:11:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:11:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 09 19:11:28 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A7eK0-0002D4-00 for ; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 19:11:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A7eII-00074G-SO for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 13:09:42 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1A7eI5-00072n-VP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 13:09:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1A7eHY-0006u9-Vz for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 13:09:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [205.197.48.109] (helo=gemini.smart.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A7eHY-0006po-CR for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Oct 2003 13:08:56 -0400 Original-Received: from smart.net (IDENT:501@dsb.smart.net [216.253.158.43]) by gemini.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA05679; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:08:53 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.18+dsb+smp+ide i686) X-Accept-Language: en X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:13093 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:13093 Sven Utcke wrote: > > "Daniel B." writes: > > >... > > Yes, but reconfigure your keyboard so that the Caps Lock key functions > > as the control key. (I'm assuming you're using a PC-style keyboard.) > > > > Emacs control-character sequences were designed when the standard place > > for the control key was just to the left of where the A key is (in the > > US layout). > > Well, considering where C-y is on an american keyboard (it's fine on a > German one, incidentially), makes one wonder if Emacs control > sequences where ever designed for anything but mnemonic value --- Most > of them certainly are in strange places. I didn't say they were designed based on the location of the shifted character's key. I just said that were designed when all Control keys where in the easy-to-reach left-of-A location (and that anyone using the regular Control keys on a PC-style keyboard would think they're harder to reach than they actual are with the control key in the right location). Daniel -- Daniel Barclay dsb@smart.net