From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hin-Tak Leung Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: emacs-19.34 segfaults when built with Xfree 4.3.0(glibc2.3.x,gcc 3.2) Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 18:51:52 +0100 Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <3EBFDF38.3050201@yahoo.co.uk> References: <3EBFB256.4000504@yahoo.co.uk> <3EBFC7DE.1000502@yahoo.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1052761785 19936 80.91.224.249 (12 May 2003 17:49:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 17:49:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: samuel@ma.hw.ac.uk Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 12 19:49:39 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19FHOZ-0004zC-00 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 19:47:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19FHOi-0003Bu-01 for gnu-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 May 2003 13:47:36 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 19FHO2-00022l-00 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 May 2003 13:46:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 19FHNs-0001Z9-00 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 May 2003 13:46:44 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp011.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.173.31]) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19FHNr-0001Wn-00 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 May 2003 13:46:43 -0400 Original-Received: from m328-mp1.cvx1-a.cam.dial.ntli.net (HELO yahoo.co.uk) (hintak?leung@62.253.145.72 with plain) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 May 2003 17:46:37 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us Original-To: Thien-Thi Nguyen In-Reply-To: Original-cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:5028 gmane.emacs.help:9611 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:5028 (Sigh) This is getting more and more off-topic. You know, earlier posts to similar questions (why does it segfault, "fatal error 11") in the archive had instead concentrated on the issue at hand e.g. in the archive around Jun 2002 there was an explicit patch (which I already use to get the compilation going), and other people over the past 10 years' archive had suggested running gdb on core dumps, doing a strace, etc on the "Fatal Error 11" problem. So far neither you nor "supposedly helpful" samuel had even suggested either gdb or strace. or trying to get a core dump. If you want my adaptability, I guess I would like to offer a gdb back trace or something like that eventually, when I get round to do it. Can you help debugging a gdb back trace? (I would really like a straight forward "yes" or "no", rather than going into further philosophical discussions). Thien-Thi Nguyen wrote: > Hin-Tak Leung writes: > > but I would still like an answer, an explanation, or (gasp) a > possible fix. > > you are getting answers. you are getting (oblique) explanations. if > these are not to your liking, what adaptability can you demonstrate to > elicit the preferred results? > > thi >