From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hin-Tak Leung Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: emacs-19.34 segfauls when built with Xfree 4.3.0 (glibc 2.3.x,gcc 3.2) Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 18:29:50 +0100 Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <3EBFDA0E.1020204@yahoo.co.uk> References: <3EBFB256.4000504@yahoo.co.uk> <3EBFCAE2.9030306@yahoo.co.uk> <20030512180149.371bb9d5.samuel@ma.hw.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1052760468 13242 80.91.224.249 (12 May 2003 17:27:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 17:27:48 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 12 19:27:47 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19FH4g-0003OV-00 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 19:26:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19FH3a-0008IA-05 for gnu-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 May 2003 13:25:46 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 19FH3G-0008Br-00 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 May 2003 13:25:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 19FH2v-00084u-00 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 May 2003 13:25:06 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp017.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.174.114]) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19FH2f-0007zX-00 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 May 2003 13:24:49 -0400 Original-Received: from m328-mp1.cvx1-a.cam.dial.ntli.net (HELO yahoo.co.uk) (hintak?leung@62.253.145.72 with plain) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 May 2003 17:24:37 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us Original-To: Sam Halliday , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <20030512180149.371bb9d5.samuel@ma.hw.ac.uk> X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:5027 gmane.emacs.help:9610 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:5027 (Sigh) A 3rd "See I am so helpful" post. Look - there is no useful content in any of your three replies. Other than my stated reason (an important old elisp script that doesn't run under current versions), I think the memory foot-print and launch-time could well be the reason for anybody wanting to run emacs-19 or even earlier on current systems instead of the current. As you say, it is a frequent-enough request, and I asked a legitimate question that you fail to address anywhere close in 3 posts... Why can't you just try to answer a straight-forward question, as you seem to suggest you "want to help"? As it turned out, if I had mentioned cemacs (and mentioned that I don't want to use MULE), I would be drawing myself into a flame war regarding MULE's merits. That had seemed to be a sensitive subject to some others (ttn@glug.org - who I believe is possibly involved in MULE's development as I seems to have come across that name in other projects). It is a fairly personal choice - cemacs versus MULE, emacs 19 versus 21, and I don't really need to explain why I prefer one to the other. I asked a technical question and reported a possible bug of an old unmaintained version of emacs, which I believe some other people may like to continue to use for their own reasons - those reasons are somewhat irrelevant to the question. I would really prefer it to stay that way. Sam Halliday wrote: > Hin-Tak Leung wrote: > >>Thanks for another "I am trying to help and I am not saying >>anything" post... > > > dude... i was trying to help initially... i know lots of people on > mailing lists who for some reason or other like to run the latest and > greatest linux kernel and gnu c libraries, but yet use whatever old > program they can find (eg your old emacs) so it wasnt exactly a stupid > thing to suggest you upgrade... if you described your system in so much > detail, how come you managed to leave out the bit about cemacs!!! > > i really dont give a shit if you start using xemacs... was that supposed > to be some kind of lame threat, cuz it doesnt exactly scare me :-/ > > get a fuckin life, > Sam >