Slow startup...

Slow startup...

[beau]

Hi -

I am an emacs newbie - suffering the learning
curve... I just installed the latest emacs
(21.3.1) on a SuSE 8.1 Linux (X) and am playing
with fonts. I _hate_ courier, so I put the following
in my .emacs:

(set-default-font "lucidasanstypewriter-14")

-or-

(set-default-font "-b&h-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-
normal-sans-14-140-75-75-m-90-iso8859-1")

I both cases, emacs thinks about starting up for at
least 5 seconds while he expands his window. If
I use a 10pt font such as:

(set-default-font "lucidasanstypewriter-10")

everything is properly quick (and the window does
_not_ expand). Now being old, I need my 14pt, but
I am spoiled by instaneous response... Is there
something else I can set to avoid this reformatting
delay?

Aloha => Beau;

PS: emacs 21.3.1 on my Windows machines (XP and
2000) does not suffer this delay,

Re: Slow startup...

[kgold]

Unfortunately, I can't fix your font problem.

But as a newbie, you should know that you eventually want to use
either gnuserv/gnuclient or the other client server combination
(?/emacsclient).

What this does is run emacs as a server.  When you want to edit
another file, the client quickly attaches to the server.  You leave
the server running forever.

As you get better at emacs and start loading all sorts of packages,
you will appreciate the client/server model.

beau@beaucox.com writes:
> Hi -
> 
> I am an emacs newbie - suffering the learning
> curve... I just installed the latest emacs
> (21.3.1) on a SuSE 8.1 Linux (X) and am playing
> with fonts. I _hate_ courier, so I put the following
> in my .emacs:
> 
> (set-default-font "lucidasanstypewriter-14")
> 
> -or-
> 
> (set-default-font "-b&h-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-
> normal-sans-14-140-75-75-m-90-iso8859-1")
> 
> I both cases, emacs thinks about starting up for at
> least 5 seconds while he expands his window. If
> I use a 10pt font such as:
> 
> (set-default-font "lucidasanstypewriter-10")
> 
> everything is properly quick (and the window does
> _not_ expand). Now being old, I need my 14pt, but
> I am spoiled by instaneous response... Is there
> something else I can set to avoid this reformatting
> delay?
> 
> Aloha => Beau;
> 
> PS: emacs 21.3.1 on my Windows machines (XP and
> 2000) does not suffer this delay,

-- 
-- 
Ken Goldman   kgold@watson.ibm.com   914-784-7646

Re: Slow startup...

[John Paul Wallington]

beau@beaucox.com wrote:

> Now being old, I need my 14pt, but I am spoiled by instaneous
> response... Is there something else I can set to avoid this
> reformatting delay?

If you specify which font to use in X Resources then that information
is taken into account when the Emacs frame is first created which may
avoid subsequent resizing.

Re: Slow startup...

[gebser]

This works for me:

$ cat .Xdefaults 
! This is /home/ken/.Xdefaults, for customizing X
!
! To get Russian (Cyrillic) characters into emacs, use:
! *Emacs.font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-120-75-75-c-80-koi8-r
*Emacs.font: -Adobe-Courier-Medium-R-Normal--10-100-75-75-M-60-ISO8859-1
*Emacs.cursorColor: limegreen
*netscape.geometry: 640x773+137+15

So in emacs I get from "M-x describe-font RETURN RETURN":

name (opened by): 
-Adobe-Courier-Medium-R-Normal--10-100-75-75-M-60-ISO8859-1
       full name: 
-Adobe-Courier-Medium-R-Normal--10-100-75-75-M-60-ISO8859-1
   charset: ascii (ASCII (ISO646 IRV))
            size: 6
          height: 11
 baseline-offset: 0
relative-compose: 0


hth,
ken


At 14:16 (UTC-0000) on Tue, 25 Mar 2003 John Paul Wallington said:

= beau@beaucox.com wrote:
= 
= > Now being old, I need my 14pt, but I am spoiled by instaneous
= > response... Is there something else I can set to avoid this
= > reformatting delay?
= 
= If you specify which font to use in X Resources then that information
= is taken into account when the Emacs frame is first created which may
= avoid subsequent resizing.
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Re: Slow startup...

[beau]

On 25 Mar 2003 at 14:16, John Paul Wallington wrote:

> beau@beaucox.com wrote:
> 
> > Now being old, I need my 14pt, but I am spoiled by instaneous
> > response... Is there something else I can set to avoid this
> > reformatting delay?
> 
> If you specify which font to use in X Resources then that information
> is taken into account when the Emacs frame is first created which may
> avoid subsequent resizing.
> _______________________________________________

Thank you, John Paul. I'll try to wade through
the .Xdefaults/.Xresouces config files...

Do you know, offhand, where I can find the "x
font name(s)" that I have to specify for emacs?
Just:

emacs.font: ...

-or-

emacs.textFont: ...

don't do anything for me...?

Aloha => Beau;

Re: Slow startup...

[John Paul Wallington]

beau@beaucox.com wrote:

> Do you know, offhand, where I can find the "x
> font name(s)" that I have to specify for emacs?
> Just:
>
> emacs.font: ...
>
> -or-
>
> emacs.textFont: ...
> don't do anything for me...?

I have:
Emacs.font: ...

All my Emacs X Resources start "Emacs.".  I think this means they
will be heeded irrespective of the executable's name.

Re: Slow startup...

[beau]

On 26 Mar 2003 at 14:34, John Paul Wallington wrote:

> beau@beaucox.com wrote:
> 
> > Do you know, offhand, where I can find the "x
> > font name(s)" that I have to specify for emacs?
> > Just:
> >
> > emacs.font: ...
> >
> > -or-
> >
> > emacs.textFont: ...
> > don't do anything for me...?
> 
> I have:
> Emacs.font: ...
> 
> All my Emacs X Resources start "Emacs.".  I think this means they
> will be heeded irrespective of the executable's name.

IT WORKS!!! Many, many thanks.

Aloha => Beau;

Re: Slow startup...

[beau]

On 26 Mar 2003 at 4:50, beau@beaucox.com wrote:

> On 26 Mar 2003 at 14:34, John Paul Wallington wrote:
> 
> > beau@beaucox.com wrote:
> > 
> > > Do you know, offhand, where I can find the "x
> > > font name(s)" that I have to specify for emacs?
> > > Just:
> > >
> > > emacs.font: ...
> > >
> > > -or-
> > >
> > > emacs.textFont: ...
> > > don't do anything for me...?
> > 
> > I have:
> > Emacs.font: ...
> > 
> > All my Emacs X Resources start "Emacs.".  I think this means they
> > will be heeded irrespective of the executable's name.
> 
> IT WORKS!!! Many, many thanks.
> 
> Aloha => Beau;
> 
I know this is OT, but how do you get X to use
changes to .Xdefaults w/o restarting it?

Aloha => Beau; 

Re: Slow startup...

[John Paul Wallington]

beau@beaucox.com wrote:

> I know this is OT, but how do you get X to use
> changes to .Xdefaults w/o restarting it?

xrdb /path/to/.Xdefaults

Re: Slow startup...

[Kevin Rodgers]

John Paul Wallington wrote:

> beau@beaucox.com wrote:
>>Do you know, offhand, where I can find the "x
>>font name(s)" that I have to specify for emacs?


The "Resources X" node of the Emacs manual.

>>Just:
>>
>>emacs.font: ...
>>
>>-or-
>>
>>emacs.textFont: ...
>>don't do anything for me...?


emacs.font should work.


> I have:
> Emacs.font: ...
> 
> All my Emacs X Resources start "Emacs.".  I think this means they
> will be heeded irrespective of the executable's name.

Yes.  I use Emacs*Font.  The asterisk means that the resource applies to all

widgets in the application; Font means the value applies to all resources of
that class.

-- 
<a href="mailto:&lt;kevin.rodgers&#64;ihs.com&gt;">Kevin Rodgers</a>

Re: Slow startup...

[Kevin Rodgers]

beau@beaucox.com wrote:

> I know this is OT, but how do you get X to use
> changes to .Xdefaults w/o restarting it?

xrdb -merge $HOME/.Xdefaults

But I think Emacs explicitly reads that file (and/or .Xdefaults-`hostname -n`)
itself when it starts up.

-- 
<a href="mailto:&lt;kevin.rodgers&#64;ihs.com&gt;">Kevin Rodgers</a>

Re: Slow startup...

[kgold]

On AIX, it's 

	> xrdb .Xdefaults

beau@beaucox.com writes:
> I know this is OT, but how do you get X to use
> changes to .Xdefaults w/o restarting it?

-- 
Ken Goldman   kgold@watson.ibm.com   914-784-7646