From: Pierre Albarede <albanews@free.fr>
Subject: problem displaying latin accents with emacs and mac os X
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 22:29:54 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3E763E52.6070009@free.fr> (raw)
Hello.
There are many problems with non ASCII characters in emacs. I would like
to share my findings and I also hope to get some help about a little bug
of my own, please.
I use enhanced-carbon emacs (GNU Emacs 21.3.50.4) on mac os
X.2.4(powerpc-apple-darwin6.2, kind of BSD unix).
I do not use x windows.
C-h h is an easy way to see how the emacs-mule (multi-lingual
environment) system performs. For example, many Asian characters work
fine on my system.
For more detail (jump to \end if you are in a hurry):
\begin{M-x mule says}
###############################################
### Current Status of Multilingual Features ###
###############################################
CONTENTS: Section 1. General Information
Section 2. Display
Section 3. Input methods
Section 4. Coding systems
Section 5. Character sets
Section 6. Fontsets
########################################
# Section 1. General Information
########################################
Version of this emacs:
GNU Emacs 21.3.50.4 (powerpc-apple-darwin6.2)
of 2002-12-01 on marx.local.
Configuration options:
'--with-carbon' '--without-x'
'--prefix=/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources'
Multibyte characters awareness:
default: t
current-buffer: t
Current language environment: French
########################################
# Section 2. Display
########################################
Window-system: mac1
Coding system of the terminal: iso-latin-1
########################################
# Section 3. Input methods
########################################
[...]
French
french-alt-postfix (`FR<' in mode line)
French (FranÁais) input method with postfix modifiers
french-azerty (`AZ@' in mode line)
French (FranÁais) input method simulating Azerty keyboard
french-keyboard (`FR@' in mode line)
French (FranÁais) input method simulating some French keyboard
french-postfix (`FR<' in mode line)
French (FranÁais) input method with postfix modifiers
french-prefix (`FR>' in mode line)
French (FranÁais) input method with prefix modifiers
[...]
UTF-8
TeX (`\' in mode line)
LaTeX-like input method for many characters.
rfc1345 (`m' in mode line)
Unicode characters input method using RFC1345 mnemonics (non-ASCII
only).
sgml (`&' in mode line)
Unicode characters input method using SGML entities.
[...]
Default input method: latin-1-prefix
########################################
# Section 4. Coding systems
########################################
#########################
## LIST OF CODING SYSTEMS
## Each line corresponds to one coding system
[...]
iso-latin-1,iso-8859-1,latin-1:2:1:3:ascii,latin-iso8859-1,-1,-1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0:ISO
2022 based 8-bit encoding for Latin-1 (MIME:ISO-8859-1).
[...]
mac-roman:4:M:3: decode-mac-roman,encode-mac-roman:Mac Roman Encoding
(MIME:MACINTOSH).
[...]
############################
## LIST OF CODING CATEGORIES (ordered by priority)
## CATEGORY:CODING-SYSTEM
##
coding-category-iso-8-1:iso-latin-1
coding-category-iso-8-2:iso-latin-1
coding-category-iso-7-tight:iso-2022-jp
coding-category-iso-7:iso-2022-7bit
coding-category-iso-7-else:iso-2022-7bit-lock
coding-category-iso-8-else:iso-2022-8bit-ss2
coding-category-emacs-mule:emacs-mule
coding-category-raw-text:raw-text
coding-category-sjis:japanese-shift-jis
coding-category-big5:chinese-big5
coding-category-ccl:nil
coding-category-binary:no-conversion
coding-category-utf-16-be:nil
coding-category-utf-16-le:nil
coding-category-utf-8:mule-utf-8
########################################
# Section 5. Character sets
########################################
#########################
## LIST OF CHARSETS
[...]
244:mule-unicode-0100-24ff:2:96:4:1:0:49:0:Unicode characters of the
range U+0100..U+24FF.
243:mule-unicode-e000-ffff:2:96:4:1:0:51:0:Unicode characters of the
range U+E000..U+FFFF.
242:mule-unicode-2500-33ff:2:96:4:1:0:50:0:Unicode characters of the
range U+2500..U+33FF.
[...]
129:latin-iso8859-1:1:96:2:1:0:65:1:Right-Hand Part of Latin Alphabet 1
(ISO/IEC 8859-1): ISO-IR-100.
000:ascii:1:94:1:1:0:66:0:ASCII (ISO646 IRV)
[...]
########################################
# Section 6. Fontsets
########################################
Fontset-Name WDxHT Style
------------ ----- -----
Fontset: -apple-courier-medium-r-normal--14-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-courier
CHARSET or CHAR RANGE FONT NAME
--------------------- ---------
ascii -apple-courier-medium-r-normal--14-140-75-75-m-140-mac-roman
latin-iso8859-1
-apple-courier-medium-r-normal--14-140-75-75-m-140-mac-roman
[...]
mule-unicode-2500-33ff -*-iso10646-1
mule-unicode-e000-ffff -*-iso10646-1
mule-unicode-0100-24ff -*-iso10646-1
[...]
Fontset: -etl-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-mac
CHARSET or CHAR RANGE FONT NAME
--------------------- ---------
ascii -apple-monaco-medium-r-normal--12-120-75-75-m-120-mac-roman
latin-iso8859-1
-? -*-monaco-*-mac-roman
latin-iso8859-2 -*-iso8859-2
latin-iso8859-3 -*-iso8859-3
latin-iso8859-4 -*-iso8859-4
thai-tis620 -*-*-*-tis620-*
greek-iso8859-7 -*-*-*-iso8859-7
arabic-iso8859-6 -*-*-*-iso8859-6
hebrew-iso8859-8 -*-*-*-iso8859-8
katakana-jisx0201 -*-*-*-jisx0201-*
latin-jisx0201 -*-jisx0201-*
cyrillic-iso8859-5 -*-*-*-iso8859-5
latin-iso8859-9 -*-iso8859-9
[...]
Fontset: -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-default
CHARSET or CHAR RANGE FONT NAME
--------------------- ---------
ascii -apple-monaco-medium-r-*--*-120-*-*-*-*-mac-roman
[-apple-courier-medium-i-normal--16-154-75-75-m-0-mac-roman]
[-apple-courier-bold-r-normal--16-154-75-75-m-0-mac-roman]
[-apple-courier-medium-r-normal--16-154-75-75-m-0-mac-roman]
latin-iso8859-1 -*-iso8859-1
latin-iso8859-2 -*-iso8859-2
latin-iso8859-3 -*-iso8859-3
latin-iso8859-4 -*-iso8859-4
\end{M-x mule says}
Another diagnosis :
\begin{C-h C says}
Coding system for saving this buffer:
1 -- iso-latin-1-unix
Default coding system (for new files):
1 -- iso-latin-1 (alias: iso-8859-1 latin-1)
Coding system for keyboard input:
1 -- iso-latin-1 (alias: iso-8859-1 latin-1)
Coding system for terminal output:
1 -- iso-latin-1 (alias: iso-8859-1 latin-1)
Defaults for subprocess I/O:
decoding: 1 -- iso-latin-1 (alias: iso-8859-1 latin-1)
encoding: 1 -- iso-latin-1 (alias: iso-8859-1 latin-1)
Priority order for recognizing coding systems when reading files:
1. iso-latin-1 (alias: iso-8859-1 latin-1)
2. iso-2022-jp (alias: junet)
3. iso-2022-7bit
4. iso-2022-7bit-lock (alias: iso-2022-int-1)
5. iso-2022-8bit-ss2
6. emacs-mule
7. raw-text
8. japanese-shift-jis (alias: shift_jis sjis)
9. chinese-big5 (alias: big5 cn-big5)
10. no-conversion
11. mule-utf-8 (alias: utf-8)
Other coding systems cannot be distinguished automatically
from these, and therefore cannot be recognized automatically
with the present coding system priorities.
The following are decoded correctly but recognized as iso-2022-7bit-lock:
iso-2022-7bit-ss2 iso-2022-7bit-lock-ss2 iso-2022-cn iso-2022-cn-ext
iso-2022-jp-2 iso-2022-kr
Particular coding systems specified for certain file names:
OPERATION TARGET PATTERN CODING SYSTEM(s)
--------- -------------- ----------------
File I/O "\\.elc\\'" (emacs-mule . emacs-mule)
"\\.utf\\(-8\\)?\\'" utf-8
"\\(\\`\\|/\\)loaddefs.el\\'"
(raw-text . raw-text-unix)
"\\.tar\\'" (no-conversion . no-conversion)
"\\.po[tx]?\\'\\|\\.po\\."
po-find-file-coding-system
"" (undecided)
Process I/O nothing specified
Network I/O nothing specified
[back]
\end{C-h C says}
emacs is clever enough to configure itself from the environment variable
LANG=fr_FR (to see it: M-x shell setenv).
All should be fine to write English and French in the iso-latin-1,
iso-latin-9, mac-roman or utf-8 codings. (I am happy with only
iso-latin-1, since I have conversion tools outside emacs - I can comment
on that if you need.)
You can shift to any language preference with
M-x set-language-environment
and check with
M-: current-language-environment
and most variables will be set accordingly.
As emacs is not a converter, a buffer file coding system cannot be
changed after the file has been found. But you can casually override the
default file coding system with
C-x RET c universal-coding-system-argument
and check with
M-: buffer-file-coding-system
This might be necessary for a file containing some alien chars.
C-x RET k set-keyboard-coding-system
M-:keyboard-coding-system
C-x RET t...
Character palettes :
M-x list-character-sets
All these commands are very practical and not often mentioned.
---
Now my problem.
The only font displaying iso8859-1 accented characters is the default
font, of size 14, definitely too small for my 12'' ibook display and my
eyes.
;;default font: accents OK but size too small
(font . "-*-*-*-*-*--*-*-*-*-*-*-*")
Default font is (M-x describe-font)
-apple-courier-medium-r-normal--14-140-75-75-m-140-mac-roman
;;size OK but accents losts
;;(font . "-apple-courier-medium-r-normal--16-160-75-75-m-160-mac-roman")
Considering that fontsets are based on fonts, I have experimented only
on fonts.
Other fonts (M-x set-frame-font) are either not better, undefined or
display garbage.
There is no iso8859-1 font. Yet the default font (mac-roman) can display
both mac-roman and iso8859-1.
After Reading The Fucking Manual, I have concluded that I missed GNU
intl fonts. However, I cannot install them, because they rely on x
ressources.
Thus, I am still looking for a way to display accented iso8859-1
characters in size 16, and hope to be finished by Christmas, with your
kind help :=))
next reply other threads:[~2003-03-17 21:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-03-17 21:29 Pierre Albarede [this message]
2003-03-17 22:16 ` problem displaying latin accents with emacs and mac os X Peter Ilberg
2003-03-18 10:04 ` Pierre Albarede
2003-03-18 7:54 ` Erik Simon
[not found] ` <mailman.3314.1047975222.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-03-18 10:07 ` Pierre Albarede
2003-03-18 12:51 ` Pierre Albarede
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