From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrew Brehaut Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: usability issue Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:44:55 +1300 Organization: Attica Communications Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <3E268D27.5060801@deviantart.com> References: <87bs2tyk4x.fsf@wesley.springies.com> <3E268554.2030409@deviantart.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1042713945 25822 80.91.224.249 (16 Jan 2003 10:45:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:45:45 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18Z7Wq-0006iM-00 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:45:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18Z7Wh-0005jC-05 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 05:45:35 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news-hog.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!enews.sgi.com!news.xtra.co.nz!newsfeeds.ihug.co.nz!lust.ihug.co.nz!ihug.co.nz!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 47 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: news.tranzpeer.net Original-X-Trace: lust.ihug.co.nz 1042713836 29118 202.180.64.19 (16 Jan 2003 10:43:56 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@ihug.co.nz Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:43:56 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020830 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Cache-Post-Path: cereal.attica.net.nz!unknown@p97.nas1.chc.callplus.net.nz X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:109014 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:5542 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:5542 David Kastrup wrote: > Andrew writes: > > >>John Paul Wallington wrote: >> >>>Andrew wrote: >>> >>> >>>>i just don't know how to find if I'm at the beginning of a line. Is >>>>there a function; or does it need to be written specially? >>> >>>See `bolp'. >>> >> >>for the sack of politness; heres my version of the functions (only >>line and buffer sorry) feel free to do whatever. >> >>(defun beginning-of-line-or-buffer () >> "Sends point to the beginning of the current line, or, if already there, >> the beginning of the buffer" >> (interactive) >> (if (bolp) >> (goto-char (point-min)) >> (beginning-of-line) >> )) >> >>(defun end-of-line-or-buffer () >> "Sends point to the beginning of the current line, or, if already there, >> the beginning of the buffer" >> (interactive) >> (if (eolp) >> (goto-char (point-max)) >> (end-of-line) >> )) > > > I think at least the far jumps should place a mark so that C-x C-x > will get you back. So you would want to use beginning-of-buffer > instead of (goto-char (point-min)) and the corresponding for the end. > Thanks for that; the info pages were kinda missleading (perhaps only for a beginner though). Andrew