From: Peter Flynn <peter@silmaril.ie>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Psgml-devel] Re: Key sequence C-c C-f C-e uses invalid prefix characters
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 00:53:48 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3E20BC9C.4000802@silmaril.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 200301112010.h0BKAPb04482@rum.cs.yale.edu
Stefan Monnier wrote:
>>>Last I heard (and that was before Dave's patches were incorporated),
>>>PSGML did not deal well at all with the situation where the DTD is
>>>unknown, which happens to be the standard case for me. This is
>>>why I spent some time improving sgml-mode.
>>>I believe that Dave's patches do bring PSGML to the point where it
>>>is about as good as sgml-mode when editing text without DTD, so maybe
>>>it is now good enough to replace sgml-mode.
>>
>>I must agree with Peter Flynn and question whether Emacs' default
>>*sgml*-mode be one that functions /a priori/ without a DTD. It's almost
>>a contradiction in terms.
>
>
> Maybe it's a contradiction in terms for you, but as I said, it's the standard
> case for me. The DTD exists, but I simply don't have it.
Forgive my curiosity but I'm interested to know why.
> And I really mean SGML, not just XML.
> The fact that sgml-mode doesn't even try to use a DTD is not a feature.
> But the fact that it tries to be useful even in the absence of a DTD is.
> Based on Dave's comments, I gather that psgml-mode now has a more
> "graceful degradation" when the DTD is missing, so this might all
> be a non-issue.
It's pretty much a non-issue now: if the DTD is unknown or absent, then
you're not editing SGML, you're editing plain text.
But I agree, a mode which allows some syntactic response to pointy
brackets is enormously useful in dealing with the typical end-user's
imaginary markup systems, which traditionally require huge amounts
of character editing of the markup to make them validate.
///Peter
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2002-12-10 7:05 ` Key sequence C-c C-f C-e uses invalid prefix characters Karl Eichwalder
2002-12-10 13:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-12-10 18:27 ` Kevin Rodgers
2002-12-11 17:44 ` Richard Stallman
2002-12-12 3:08 ` Galen Boyer
2002-12-11 17:44 ` Richard Stallman
2002-12-12 6:34 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-12-12 6:57 ` Miles Bader
2002-12-12 7:53 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-12-12 20:32 ` Kevin Rodgers
2002-12-13 18:22 ` Lennart Staflin
2002-12-14 15:15 ` Felix Gatzemeier
2002-12-15 7:28 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-12-16 16:42 ` Richard Stallman
2002-12-15 23:39 ` Richard Stallman
2002-12-16 22:07 ` Peter Flynn
2002-12-16 22:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-12-17 23:34 ` Ron Ross
2003-01-11 20:10 ` [Psgml-devel] " Stefan Monnier
2003-01-12 0:53 ` Peter Flynn [this message]
2002-12-18 0:34 ` Peter Flynn
2002-12-18 9:10 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-12-18 22:32 ` [Psgml-devel] " Peter Flynn
2002-12-19 22:52 ` Dave Love
2003-01-12 4:06 ` [Psgml-devel] " Miles Bader
2003-01-12 14:11 ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-01-12 14:29 ` Peter Flynn
2003-01-12 16:25 ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-01-12 23:25 ` Peter Flynn
2003-01-13 12:33 ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-01-14 6:02 ` Karl Eichwalder
2003-01-15 22:57 ` Peter Flynn
2003-01-15 23:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-01-16 21:00 ` [Psgml-devel] " Peter Flynn
2003-01-17 12:42 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-12-19 22:50 ` Dave Love
2002-12-31 8:00 ` Adding PSGML to the Emacs CVS (Re: Key sequence C-c C-f C-e uses invalid prefix characters) Karl Eichwalder
2003-01-02 18:39 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-11 19:53 ` Stefan Monnier
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