From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Reitter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Switching CEDET from CVS to a Distributed VCS. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:111823 Archived-At: On Jun 29, 2009, at 7:19 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> For this reason I was wondering if the patch-bundle route would be a >> clean way to push stuff to bzr. > > No. Why do you think it would be any better than anything else? Once > you've got atomic commits, the rest of the issues are "what metadata > does your VCS record?" which are pretty similar for the VCSes under > consideration, and genuine conflicts, which have to be resolved > somewhere. VCSes aren't magic; when you and I make different changes > to the same line of code, some human has to sort that out. > > The problem with bidirectional mirrors is that humans are "supposed" > to be out of the loop at the point where genuine conflict occurs. > Unidirectional mirrors don't face this problem, and with a local bidi > mirror, responsibility for the problem is clear and equal to the > person who will experience damage/inconvenience. Well, that's precisely why I suggested the patch-bundle method in the first place - it would be local. I would probably implement a script that does this, if someone else provides a working (read-only) git mirror of the bzr repository.