From: Peter Flynn <peter@silmaril.ie>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, lenst@lysator.liu.se, keichwa@gmx.net,
no-spam@cua.dk, psgml-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
mvidner@suse.cz, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Pavel@Janik.cz,
kevinr@ihs.com
Subject: Re: Re: Key sequence C-c C-f C-e uses invalid prefix characters
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 00:34:38 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3DFFC29E.4060100@silmaril.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 200212162248.gBGMm2m00520@rum.cs.yale.edu
Stefan Monnier wrote:
> Last I heard (and that was before Dave's patches were incorporated),
> PSGML did not deal well at all with the situation where the DTD is
> unknown, which happens to be the standard case for me. This is
> why I spent some time improving sgml-mode.
> I believe that Dave's patches do bring PSGML to the point where it
> is about as good as sgml-mode when editing text without DTD, so maybe
> it is now good enough to replace sgml-mode.
There is no point in even attempting to edit SGML without a DTD,
as a DTD is *required* by ISO 8859 for all processing.
If you need to edit pointy-bracket markup without a DTD, you must
use XML, not SGML.
> Given the amount of complaint about PSGML "not indenting and not
> highlighting" we have seen on gnu.emacs.help I'd say that the lack
> of DTD-less support has been a problem for a long time now.
Who on earth are these people who are trying to edit SGML without
a DTD?
> Yes, PSGML should be included in Emacs, and as soon as it truly
> works as well (no matter how poor that is) as sgml-mode in
> DTD-less settings, we can and should replace sgml-mode with PSGML.
>
> But the DTD-less setting is very important.
It's really irrelevant for SGML. Only XML will work without a DTD.
///Peter
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2002-12-10 7:05 ` Key sequence C-c C-f C-e uses invalid prefix characters Karl Eichwalder
2002-12-10 13:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-12-10 18:27 ` Kevin Rodgers
2002-12-11 17:44 ` Richard Stallman
2002-12-12 3:08 ` Galen Boyer
2002-12-11 17:44 ` Richard Stallman
2002-12-12 6:34 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-12-12 6:57 ` Miles Bader
2002-12-12 7:53 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-12-12 20:32 ` Kevin Rodgers
2002-12-13 18:22 ` Lennart Staflin
2002-12-14 15:15 ` Felix Gatzemeier
2002-12-15 7:28 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-12-16 16:42 ` Richard Stallman
2002-12-15 23:39 ` Richard Stallman
2002-12-16 22:07 ` Peter Flynn
2002-12-16 22:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-12-17 23:34 ` Ron Ross
2003-01-11 20:10 ` [Psgml-devel] " Stefan Monnier
2003-01-12 0:53 ` Peter Flynn
2002-12-18 0:34 ` Peter Flynn [this message]
2002-12-18 9:10 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-12-18 22:32 ` [Psgml-devel] " Peter Flynn
2002-12-19 22:52 ` Dave Love
2003-01-12 4:06 ` [Psgml-devel] " Miles Bader
2003-01-12 14:11 ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-01-12 14:29 ` Peter Flynn
2003-01-12 16:25 ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-01-12 23:25 ` Peter Flynn
2003-01-13 12:33 ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-01-14 6:02 ` Karl Eichwalder
2003-01-15 22:57 ` Peter Flynn
2003-01-15 23:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-01-16 21:00 ` [Psgml-devel] " Peter Flynn
2003-01-17 12:42 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-12-19 22:50 ` Dave Love
2002-12-31 8:00 ` Adding PSGML to the Emacs CVS (Re: Key sequence C-c C-f C-e uses invalid prefix characters) Karl Eichwalder
2003-01-02 18:39 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-11 19:53 ` Stefan Monnier
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