From: Ben Wing <ben@666.com>
Cc: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>,
Pavel@janik.cz, gerd@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: C-l while in menu?
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 06:04:52 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3CC40A74.5040600@666.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 200204220928.g3M9S9H32293@rum.cs.yale.edu
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Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> > It might not be easy to find key bindings for it, though.
>>
>> I think it is very easy. We should use F10, and invent new variable
>> f10-should-use-tmm (this is only idea to exactly describe its meaning...)
>> defaulting to nil.
>>
>>What key bindings does XEmacs use for this feature?
>>Maybe we should use the same ones, if there is no disadvantage.
>>
>
>I think they use A-<letter> to pop down the menu whose
>first letter is <letter> and then the same kind of thing to select
>entries inside menus (and probably A-next and A-prior to select by
>moving line-by-line).
>I believe it was chosen because it's what Motif and W32 interfaces
>provide (and I expect GTK to offer similar things). It has the
>disadvantage of relying on the presence of an Alt key which is not
>already used as a Meta key.
>
>This all comes from my very fuzzy memory, so I'm sure it's good
>several "inaccuracies".
>
currently, either:
-- if you have an alt key separate from meta, you can use it for menu
accelerators.
-- otherwise, you can use the standard alt/meta key -- meta+any
accelerator letter selects a menu, otherwise you get the regular
behavior. for any shadowed binding, meta+shift+letter ignores the
accelerator and gets you the shadowed binding [or alternatively, use
esc+letter, which also ignores the accelerator]. you can turn this on
and off, of course, and pick what key is your accelerator. i've
designed our menus in such a way that there is little interference from
losing some of the M-foo combinations -- there are generally equivalent
arrow-key bindings, or you can just pick an item off the menu.
i program under windows, so i interfaced to the standard windows menu stuff.
btw i would really appreciate it if you guys could keep a recent version
of xemacs around so you can run it and see, and keep compatible whenever
possible rather than reinvent the wheel. i constantly refer to the most
recent gnu emacs source code when thinking about making changes [to keep
compatibility whenever possible] and it would be really good if you guys
could also try to keep compatible. keep in mind that the theoretical
eventual goal is partial or total merger of the two, and every time you
add a feature that's incompatible with xemacs you make that goal harder
to achieve.
i know you can't look at the source code directly due to self-imposed
restrictions, but
[a] you can run the program and use the help system,
[b] you can [maybe?] look at the changelogs,
[c] you should arrange one of you who doesn't work on the gnu emacs code
as official "xemacs code reader" when such issues need to be resolved.
>
>
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> Stefan
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[not found] <m3k7rjoamp.fsf@Janik.cz>
[not found] ` <200204072343.g37NhIC20114@aztec.santafe.edu>
2002-04-19 18:58 ` C-l while in menu? Pavel Janík
2002-04-20 17:27 ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-20 21:06 ` Pavel Janík
2002-04-21 11:17 ` Gerd Moellmann
2002-04-21 13:23 ` Pavel Janík
2002-04-21 14:04 ` Gerd Moellmann
2002-05-08 14:38 ` Pavel Janík
2002-05-08 18:16 ` Gerd Moellmann
2002-05-08 18:49 ` Pavel Janík
2002-05-10 0:29 ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-11 8:53 ` Pavel Janík
2002-05-13 14:17 ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-22 7:46 ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-22 8:55 ` Pavel Janík
2002-04-22 10:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-04-22 12:59 ` Miles Bader
2002-04-22 17:47 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-04-23 2:05 ` Miles Bader
2002-04-22 19:47 ` Jan D.
2002-04-23 19:30 ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-22 9:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-04-22 13:04 ` Ben Wing [this message]
2002-04-22 13:42 ` Pavel Janík
2002-04-23 9:13 ` Ben Wing
2002-04-23 9:35 ` Miles Bader
2002-04-23 11:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-23 10:22 ` Gerd Moellmann
2002-04-23 11:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-23 11:42 ` Simon Josefsson
2002-04-24 17:55 ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-24 18:29 ` Simon Josefsson
2002-04-26 3:17 ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-24 18:37 ` Gerd Moellmann
2002-04-26 3:20 ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-24 10:42 ` Ben Wing
2002-04-24 11:27 ` Simon Josefsson
2002-04-24 15:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-24 14:40 ` Pavel Janík
2002-04-24 15:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-25 6:06 ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-23 12:06 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-04-23 11:44 ` Simon Josefsson
2002-04-24 10:56 ` Ben Wing
[not found] ` <3CC68F57.4060901@666.com>
2002-04-24 11:15 ` Simon Josefsson
2002-04-24 12:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-04-24 15:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-23 11:53 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-04-23 14:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-04-24 10:44 ` Ben Wing
2002-04-24 15:37 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-04-25 6:06 ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-25 8:05 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2002-04-25 9:13 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-04-25 10:22 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2002-04-26 3:18 ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-26 11:14 ` Gerd Moellmann
2002-04-25 11:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-23 9:32 ` Ben Wing
[not found] ` <3CC52A2F.6010704@666.com>
2002-04-23 9:51 ` Hrvoje Niksic
2002-04-23 11:20 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2002-04-23 19:30 ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-23 20:22 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-04-24 4:12 ` Miles Bader
2002-04-25 6:07 ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-25 7:21 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-04-25 7:35 ` Miles Bader
2002-04-25 12:00 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-04-25 12:21 ` Andreas Schwab
2002-04-25 13:00 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-04-25 13:11 ` Andreas Schwab
2002-04-25 14:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-25 14:39 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-04-25 16:19 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-04-25 19:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-25 20:16 ` Jason Rumney
2002-04-25 23:10 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-04-25 23:21 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-04-26 1:23 ` Miles Bader
2002-04-26 17:38 ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-26 3:18 ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-23 0:24 ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-22 11:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-23 19:31 ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-23 20:13 ` Pavel Janík
2002-04-25 6:05 ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-25 11:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-22 1:27 ` Miles Bader
2002-04-22 6:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0204241307080.32219-100000@yxa.extundo.com>
2002-04-24 14:36 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2002-04-24 15:33 ` Kai Großjohann
[not found] ` <vaf662hjelc.fsf@INBOX.auto.emacs.devel.tok.lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de>
2002-04-24 16:23 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2002-04-24 18:15 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-04-25 2:23 ` Hrvoje Niksic
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