From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: A more modest proposal (Was: Emacs learning curve) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:10:30 -0700 Message-ID: <3C381A08A1ED4AA2BE0B1C0C7F7FE927@us.oracle.com> References: <4C3B6A8A.80105@gmx.de> <87wrt0e81n.fsf@telefonica.net> <62E9699C07054418AB66F9C5FCB54E5C@us.oracle.com> <87sk3oe3la.fsf@telefonica.net> <1154D96E7D2F401D849266F359E44BB9@us.oracle.com> <87ocecdzou.fsf@telefonica.net> <2256C17F740A425884AD551DE7758056@us.oracle.com> <87fwzodqqm.fsf@telefonica.net> <5138CDF30B2D4B778F948015614DA7BC@us.oracle.com> <87iq4ijtdy.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87bpa7uu1e.fsf@kanis.fr> <877hkv2hco.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87iq4e593w.fsf@kanis.fr><87lj9ayp2f.fsf@stupidchicken.com><4C493433.4010709@censorshipresearch.org><4C4942B0.3040405@swipnet.se><4C494377.7030801@censorshipresearch.org> <4C495EA7.1000001@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1279897890 22375 80.91.229.12 (23 Jul 2010 15:11:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:11:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Chong Yidong' , 'Emacs development discussions' To: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?'Jan_Dj=E4rv'?=" , "'Daniel Colascione'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 23 17:11:27 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OcJuH-00027s-J4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:11:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59669 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OcJuG-0008M2-JJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:11:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=50996 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OcJu6-0008KC-Eu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:11:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OcJu1-00043C-Hn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:11:14 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]:53164) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OcJu1-000430-C1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:11:09 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet13.oracle.com (rcsinet13.oracle.com [148.87.113.125]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id o6NFB253009620 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:11:04 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt355.oracle.com (acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155]) by rcsinet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o6NDen8F028837; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:10:59 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt001.oracle.com by acsmt353.oracle.com with ESMTP id 452840291279897832; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:10:32 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.216.179) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:10:32 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <4C495EA7.1000001@swipnet.se> Thread-Index: AcsqSDQV3019j59nQxG+NiIMAKI8uwAMHadA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 X-Source-IP: acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090206.4C49B103.0332:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:127702 Archived-At: > >> There may not be a keyboard command for minimizing the window. > >> C-z is so much faster than reaching for the mouse when you are typing. > > > > But minimizing Emacs means you've *stopped* typing. :-) > > and moved on to another frame or application to continue typing there. [FWIW (off topic), I iconify frames to small, thumbnail frames. For me, C-z is a toggle: iconify/map. And when a frame is thus iconified it does not lose its focus.]