Not all buffers shown in "Buffers" menu bar item

Not all buffers shown in "Buffers" menu bar item

[bostjanv]

Hello,
I'm using emacs 23.1 on Ubuntu 9.10 and I noticed that not all buffers are
listed when menu bar item "Buffers" is clicked. To get all buffers one has
to select "List all buffers" (C-x C-b) option in the "Buffers" menu bar
item. For example, when I enter the command 
    emacsclient --no-wait <file 1> <file 2>
only <file 1> appears on the Buffers list while <file 2> is listed only when
"LIst all buffers" is clicked. I may add that i've noticed this behavior on
other systems as well (not only Ubuntu). Can someone, please, describe the
rule according to which a buffer is included in the "Buffers" list?
Regards,
bostjanv

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RE: Not all buffers shown in "Buffers" menu bar item

[Drew Adams]

> I'm using emacs 23.1 on Ubuntu 9.10 and I noticed that not 
> all buffers are listed when menu bar item "Buffers" is clicked.

Sounds like
http://emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=4122

RE: Not all buffers shown in "Buffers" menu bar item

[bostjanv]

Drew Adams wrote:
> 
>> I'm using emacs 23.1 on Ubuntu 9.10 and I noticed that not 
>> all buffers are listed when menu bar item "Buffers" is clicked.
> 
> Sounds like
> http://emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=4122
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Hello,

Thanks for the reply. At the moment I am not sure that the behavior
described in bug report 4122 is related to my problem. Namely, I tried the
workaround mentioned in the link (M-x accelerate-menu), and it had no effect
on my problem. Specifically, after entering 

emacsclient --no-wait <file 1> <file 2>

at the terminal, and after evaluating M-x accelerate-menu, <file 2> was
still not on the Buffers list. Further evidence that the two problems are
not related is that my problem occurs also on Windows while the
accelerate-menu command is X-Window only. Basically, I would like to submit
a bug report; but prior to that I need the information whether the behavior
I am describing (<file 2> not on Buffers list) is intended (by design) or
not. 
Regards,

bostjanv
PS "emacsclient --no-wait <file 1> ; emacsclient --no-wait <file 2>" results
in both files ending up on the Buffers list.
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RE: Not all buffers shown in "Buffers" menu bar item

[Drew Adams]

> At the moment I am not sure that the behavior
> described in bug report 4122 is related to my problem. 
> Namely, I tried the
> workaround mentioned in the link (M-x accelerate-menu), and 
> it had no effect
> on my problem. Specifically, after entering 
> 
> emacsclient --no-wait <file 1> <file 2>
> 
> at the terminal, and after evaluating M-x accelerate-menu, 
> <file 2> was still not on the Buffers list. Further
> evidence that the two problems are not related is that my
> problem occurs also on Windows while the accelerate-menu
> command is X-Window only. Basically, I would like to submit
> a bug report; but prior to that I need the information 
> whether the behavior I am describing (<file 2> not on
> Buffers list) is intended (by design) or not. 

Unless someone does answer you about that, please submit a bug report - you
should find the answer that way, at least.

Re: Not all buffers shown in "Buffers" menu bar item

[Denis Howe]

On Dec 11 2009, 9:35 am, bostjanv <bostj...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

> emacs 23.1 on Ubuntu 9.10 and I noticed that not all
> buffers are listed when menu bar item "Buffers" is clicked.

Same here.  Emacs 22 and 23 on Ubuntu 9.10.  I think this is an
instance of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/emacs22/+bug/415101.

Re: Not all buffers shown in "Buffers" menu bar item

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 22.01.2010 um 16:20 schrieb Denis Howe:

> On Dec 11 2009, 9:35 am, bostjanv wrote:
>
>> emacs 23.1 on Ubuntu 9.10 and I noticed that not all
>> buffers are listed when menu bar item "Buffers" is clicked.
>
> Same here.  Emacs 22 and 23 on Ubuntu 9.10.  I think this is an
> instance of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/emacs22/+bug/415101 
> .

This menu never showed all buffers, because there are GNU Emacs users  
that have more than a dozen buffers open... (and the upper limit of  
the number of open buffers in GNU Emacs is much larger than any screen  
area)

This menu is the bug. It might as well disappear.

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Greetings

   Pete

The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is the day they  
start selling vacuum cleaners.
				– Ernest Jan Plugge

Re: Not all buffers shown in "Buffers" menu bar item

[Lennart Borgman]

I thinkPeter is right.

On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@web.de> wrote:
>
> Am 22.01.2010 um 16:20 schrieb Denis Howe:
>
>> On Dec 11 2009, 9:35 am, bostjanv wrote:
>>
>>> emacs 23.1 on Ubuntu 9.10 and I noticed that not all
>>> buffers are listed when menu bar item "Buffers" is clicked.
>>
>> Same here.  Emacs 22 and 23 on Ubuntu 9.10.  I think this is an
>> instance of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/emacs22/+bug/415101.
>
> This menu never showed all buffers, because there are GNU Emacs users that
> have more than a dozen buffers open... (and the upper limit of the number of
> open buffers in GNU Emacs is much larger than any screen area)
>
> This menu is the bug. It might as well disappear.
>
> --
> Greetings
>
>  Pete
>
> The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is the day they start
> selling vacuum cleaners.
>                                – Ernest Jan Plugge
>
>
>
>

Re: Not all buffers shown in "Buffers" menu bar item

[Juri Linkov]

> I thinkPeter is right.

I think the bug is that it doesn't group all buffers into submenus
like tabbar.el does.

>>>> emacs 23.1 on Ubuntu 9.10 and I noticed that not all
>>>> buffers are listed when menu bar item "Buffers" is clicked.
>>>
>>> Same here.  Emacs 22 and 23 on Ubuntu 9.10.  I think this is an
>>> instance of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/emacs22/+bug/415101.
>>
>> This menu never showed all buffers, because there are GNU Emacs users that
>> have more than a dozen buffers open... (and the upper limit of the number of
>> open buffers in GNU Emacs is much larger than any screen area)
>>
>> This menu is the bug. It might as well disappear.

-- 
Juri Linkov
http://www.jurta.org/emacs/

Re: Not all buffers shown in "Buffers" menu bar item

[David Combs]

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In article <mailman.56.1264240094.14305.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>,
Peter Dyballa  <Peter_Dyballa@Web.DE> wrote:
>
>Am 22.01.2010 um 16:20 schrieb Denis Howe:
>
>> On Dec 11 2009, 9:35 am, bostjanv wrote:
>>
>>> emacs 23.1 on Ubuntu 9.10 and I noticed that not all
>>> buffers are listed when menu bar item "Buffers" is clicked.
>>
>> Same here.  Emacs 22 and 23 on Ubuntu 9.10.  I think this is an
>> instance of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/emacs22/+bug/415101 
>> .
>
>This menu never showed all buffers, because there are GNU Emacs users  
>that have more than a dozen buffers open... (and the upper limit of  

How about 676 (num lines in my *Buffer List*).  

You ask, how can I keep that much junk around?  

Easy.  M-x desktop-read!


>the number of open buffers in GNU Emacs is much larger than any screen  
>area)
>
>This menu is the bug. It might as well disappear.
>
>--
>Greetings
>
>   Pete
>
>The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is the day they  
>start selling vacuum cleaners.
>				– Ernest Jan Plugge
>
>
>