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([2001:470:8b2d:1a:9bab:c177:73b2:20a9]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 18sm12384575qtz.41.2017.04.04.11.22.22 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 04 Apr 2017 11:22:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8337dop3sw.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::231 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:213653 Archived-At: On 2017-04-04 11:53, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Clément Pit-Claudel Date: Tue, 4 Apr >> 2017 11:16:35 -0400 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >> >> One of them is fixed, the second seems seems to be mostly wontfix, >> and the third is open. But all three are relevant when trying to >> remain compatible with older Emacsen. > > So there's only one bug that remains, is that right? > > As for older versions, you could fix them by retrofitting the > patches into them, right? Correct. When the patches are in Lisp, yes, to some extent. In C, no, of course. > And in any case, they seem to be unrelated to the issue at hand, > which will only affect the next release and those after it. Right? Correct. I sought to point out that, since old version prevent some authors from using emacsclient, emacsclient being fast does mitigate much of the costs of Emacs itself starting slowly.