From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16196: 24.3.50; Disable ding when scrolling Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 16:03:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <39e5261b-85e6-41de-9f3e-bc92c5b5ed07@default> References: <25C13650-058F-45CC-A961-D789709B1179@swipnet.se> <83d2krc34d.fsf@gnu.org> <29609060-51EE-4D80-9D96-90CABE6A6844@swipnet.se> <834n63bxxb.fsf@gnu.org> <146154A1-1747-40BE-BE17-7DF4FB5DE808@swipnet.se> <831u17bdfy.fsf@gnu.org> <83y53f9s6t.fsf@gnu.org> <3E2B9204-7431-4CC0-952F-C37BB2FFD2D9@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1388793859 14158 80.91.229.3 (4 Jan 2014 00:04:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 00:04:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 16196@debbugs.gnu.org To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= , Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 04 01:04:24 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VzEj1-00080S-8m for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 01:04:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52623 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzEj0-0002Cs-Lf for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 19:04:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59477) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzEip-00026j-QH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 19:04:20 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzEih-0007B3-5H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 19:04:11 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:46747) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzEih-0007Az-1c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 19:04:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VzEif-0007ot-Rg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 19:04:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 00:04:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16196 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 16196-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16196.138879380230002 (code B ref 16196); Sat, 04 Jan 2014 00:04:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16196) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jan 2014 00:03:22 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60765 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VzEi2-0007np-Bf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 19:03:22 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:42176) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VzEi0-0007nd-Lp for 16196@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 19:03:21 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id s0403F8e012603 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 4 Jan 2014 00:03:17 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7022.oracle.com (aserz7022.oracle.com [141.146.126.231]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s0403ED1017870 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 4 Jan 2014 00:03:15 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0012.oracle.com (abhmp0012.oracle.com [141.146.116.18]) by aserz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s0403Eul017864; Sat, 4 Jan 2014 00:03:14 GMT In-Reply-To: <3E2B9204-7431-4CC0-952F-C37BB2FFD2D9@swipnet.se> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:82881 Archived-At: > Ding implies an error No, it does not. Read its doc. And read about particular uses of it, in the Elisp manual. Each explicit mention of a use makes clear that it is NOT about signaling an error. Node `Key Lookup': "it rings the bell (by calling `ding') but does not signal an error." ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Node `Functions for Key Lookup': "It calls `ding', but does not cause an error." ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Node `Beeping' tells you clearly what `ding' *is* for: "to attract the user's attention." It also makes clear that one does not want to overuse it: attracting the user's attention too much defeats the purpose and can be annoying. > I rather have a silent lack of feedback than a lot of beeping. Bind `ring-bell-function' wherever you like to whatever you like, including to `ignore'.