From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alexandre Garreau Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs i18n Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2021 14:36:26 +0200 Message-ID: <3997593.EpU2FEqYFu@galex-713.eu> References: <87czrbc1jm.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20666"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 21 14:39:38 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m6BVf-00059Y-Rg for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2021 14:39:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54792 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m6BVe-0002pW-Qz for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2021 08:39:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49338) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m6BSo-0008UW-4n for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2021 08:36:38 -0400 Original-Received: from portable.galex-713.eu ([2a00:5884:8305::1]:41318 helo=galex-713.eu) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m6BSk-0001h2-WF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2021 08:36:37 -0400 Original-Received: from gal by galex-713.eu with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m6BSd-0006dP-Bx for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2021 14:36:27 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87czrbc1jm.fsf@zoho.eu> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:5884:8305::1; envelope-from=galex-713@galex-713.eu; helo=galex-713.eu X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:131949 Archived-At: Le mercredi 21 juillet 2021, 14:08:13 CEST Emanuel Berg via Users list for= =20 the GNU Emacs text editor a =C3=A9crit : > Possible loophole: What if they use Emacs while translating? of cooourse, what else? haha first form of encouragement, that=E2=80=99s good > Allowed, but only if they spend at least 50% of the time not > actually translating but instead working on perfecting the > Elisp CAT software and associated English-French database (and > French-English for that matter, we just reverse the lists and > transpose the matrixes). This is how far I got BTW, and there > is more on that from the people on this list... the mapping aren=E2=80=99t bijective=E2=80=A6 actually nor injective nor su= rjective, I=20 mean there is no perfect mapping from one language to another :/ and=20 french is particularely nasty in that it tends to *very* quickly develop=20 false friends, especially wrt english (it=E2=80=99s pretty astounishing O.o) > https://dataswamp.org/~incal/emacs-init/ecat-incal.el >=20 > Please use it as a ... head start! >=20 > I think this is an area where FOSS and GNU/Linux (BSD etc) and > Emacs is a little bit behind, so if you guys can put us on the > top there just like with Gnus for mail we are, inspired by the > ideology of techno-totalitarianism perhaps, willing to grant > certain favors and exceptions, to show our appreciation. > Maybe a compromise, can you write the manual simultaneously in > several languages, in English _and_ French for example? would be cool=E2=80=A6