* Caveats on remapping keys
@ 2005-03-08 19:40 Tim Johnson
2005-03-08 23:31 ` Kevin Rodgers
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From: Tim Johnson @ 2005-03-08 19:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
Being new to emacs, I've occasionally gotten a little too fast and
lose with redifining keys. I'm considering using alt & ctrl with
numeric keys.
Now on xemacs in windows I see the following documentation
on 'digit-argument:
(locally bound to "0", "1", "2", "3", "4", "5", "6", "7", "8", "9")
(globally bound to "M-0", "M-1", "M-2", "M-3", "M-4", "M-5", "M-6",
"M-7", "M-8", "M-9", "M-C-0", "M-C-1", "M-C-2", "M-C-3", "M-C-4",
"M-C-5", "M-C-6", "M-C-7", "M-C-8", "M-C-9", "C-1", "C-2", "C-3", "C-4",
"C-5", "C-6", "C-7", "C-8", "C-nil")
When I get my linux box back, I will probably be using GNU emacs, and
if I do remap any of the keys above which are now *globally* bound,
what are the implications?
IOWS this is a HMB4IHM (help me before I hurt myself) question.
Comments, caveats and pointers to discussions on this subject are
invited.
Regards
Tim Johnson
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* Re: Caveats on remapping keys
2005-03-08 19:40 Caveats on remapping keys Tim Johnson
@ 2005-03-08 23:31 ` Kevin Rodgers
2005-03-09 3:53 ` Tim Johnson
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From: Kevin Rodgers @ 2005-03-08 23:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
Tim Johnson wrote:
> Being new to emacs, I've occasionally gotten a little too fast and
> lose with redifining keys. I'm considering using alt & ctrl with
> numeric keys.
>
> Now on xemacs in windows I see the following documentation
> on 'digit-argument:
> (locally bound to "0", "1", "2", "3", "4", "5", "6", "7", "8", "9")
> (globally bound to "M-0", "M-1", "M-2", "M-3", "M-4", "M-5", "M-6",
> "M-7", "M-8", "M-9", "M-C-0", "M-C-1", "M-C-2", "M-C-3", "M-C-4",
> "M-C-5", "M-C-6", "M-C-7", "M-C-8", "M-C-9", "C-1", "C-2", "C-3", "C-4",
> "C-5", "C-6", "C-7", "C-8", "C-nil")
>
> When I get my linux box back, I will probably be using GNU emacs, and
> if I do remap any of the keys above which are now *globally* bound,
> what are the implications?
You won't be able to use them to provide prefix arguments to commands.
For example, `M-7 C-n' moves down 7 lines, but not if M-7 is bound
to something other than digit-argument.
--
Kevin Rodgers
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* Re: Caveats on remapping keys
2005-03-08 23:31 ` Kevin Rodgers
@ 2005-03-09 3:53 ` Tim Johnson
2005-03-09 18:29 ` Neon Absentius
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From: Tim Johnson @ 2005-03-09 3:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
Kevin Rodgers wrote:
<snip...>
>> Now on xemacs in windows I see the following documentation
>> on 'digit-argument:
>> (locally bound to "0", "1", "2", "3", "4", "5", "6", "7", "8", "9")
>> (globally bound to "M-0", "M-1", "M-2", "M-3", "M-4", "M-5", "M-6",
>> "M-7", "M-8", "M-9", "M-C-0", "M-C-1", "M-C-2", "M-C-3", "M-C-4",
>> "M-C-5", "M-C-6", "M-C-7", "M-C-8", "M-C-9", "C-1", "C-2", "C-3",
>> "C-4", "C-5", "C-6", "C-7", "C-8", "C-nil")
>>
>> When I get my linux box back, I will probably be using GNU emacs, and
>> if I do remap any of the keys above which are now *globally* bound,
>> what are the implications?
>
>
Hello:
> You won't be able to use them to provide prefix arguments to commands.
> For example, `M-7 C-n' moves down 7 lines, but not if M-7 is bound
> to something other than digit-argument.
Correct. However, on my keyboards, 'C-7 C-n' does the same and is
more natural to my hands. It would appear that rebinding 'M-7' wouldn't
be too awful, you think?
Thanks Kevin
tim
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* Re: Caveats on remapping keys
2005-03-09 3:53 ` Tim Johnson
@ 2005-03-09 18:29 ` Neon Absentius
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From: Neon Absentius @ 2005-03-09 18:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 06:53:34PM -0900, Tim Johnson wrote:
> Hello:
> >You won't be able to use them to provide prefix arguments to commands.
> >For example, `M-7 C-n' moves down 7 lines, but not if M-7 is bound
> >to something other than digit-argument.
>
> Correct. However, on my keyboards, 'C-7 C-n' does the same and is
> more natural to my hands. It would appear that rebinding 'M-7' wouldn't
> be too awful, you think?
>
I find the M-5 (for arbitrary values of 5) binding very convenient
when I want to evaluate an expression and put the result at point,
M-7 M-: is easier to type than C-7 M-: similarly for commands like
"shell-command-in-region" etc.
I don't know how much of an inconvenience that would cause you though.
> Thanks Kevin
> tim
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* Re: Caveats on remapping keys
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@ 2005-03-09 20:29 ` Tim Johnson
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From: Tim Johnson @ 2005-03-09 20:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
Neon Absentius wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 06:53:34PM -0900, Tim Johnson wrote:
>
>>Hello:
>>
>>>You won't be able to use them to provide prefix arguments to commands.
>>>For example, `M-7 C-n' moves down 7 lines, but not if M-7 is bound
>>>to something other than digit-argument.
>>
>>Correct. However, on my keyboards, 'C-7 C-n' does the same and is
>>more natural to my hands. It would appear that rebinding 'M-7' wouldn't
>>be too awful, you think?
>>
>
>
> I find the M-5 (for arbitrary values of 5) binding very convenient
> when I want to evaluate an expression and put the result at point,
> M-7 M-: is easier to type than C-7 M-: similarly for commands like
> "shell-command-in-region" etc.
<grin>well, let's see..... on my linux box I map my windows key
to F13, so I could then map F13 to 'eval-expression. F13 sets
right next to the alt key so then I could do M-7 [F13] ......
ssoo many choices. And I really appreciate the input.
tim
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