* strange display of glyphs in a second window
@ 2014-06-25 17:26 François Patte
2014-06-25 17:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: François Patte @ 2014-06-25 17:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Bonjour,
I am facing a problem if I open a new frame (C-x 5 2): some glyphs are
displayed as if emacs could not read them (a square with the code of the
glyph).
For instance & is displayed as: 00 in a red square.
26
Also in the bottom bar, the name of the open file is displayed in the
same manner.
I don't understand why... The first frame is OK!
How to correct this?
thank you.
--
François Patte
Université Paris Descartes
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* Re: strange display of glyphs in a second window
2014-06-25 17:26 strange display of glyphs in a second window François Patte
@ 2014-06-25 17:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2014-06-26 11:58 ` Rusi
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2014-06-25 17:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
> From: François Patte <francois.patte@mi.parisdescartes.fr>
> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 19:26:24 +0200
>
> I am facing a problem if I open a new frame (C-x 5 2): some glyphs are
> displayed as if emacs could not read them (a square with the code of the
> glyph).
>
> For instance & is displayed as: 00 in a red square.
> 26
>
> Also in the bottom bar, the name of the open file is displayed in the
> same manner.
>
> I don't understand why... The first frame is OK!
Check out your default-frame-alist and initial-frame-alist, if you
customized them. Or maybe you are invoking Emacs with a command-line
switch that specifies a font. Either way, somehow you are forcing on
all frames but the initial one a font that doesn't have glyphs for
some characters, so Emacs displays them as boxes with the character's
codepoint.
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* Re: strange display of glyphs in a second window
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@ 2014-06-25 21:12 ` François Patte
2014-06-26 2:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: François Patte @ 2014-06-25 21:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Le 25/06/2014 19:53, Eli Zaretskii a écrit :
>> From: François Patte <francois.patte@mi.parisdescartes.fr>
>> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 19:26:24 +0200
>>
>> I am facing a problem if I open a new frame (C-x 5 2): some glyphs are
>> displayed as if emacs could not read them (a square with the code of the
>> glyph).
>>
>> For instance & is displayed as: 00 in a red square.
>> 26
>>
>> Also in the bottom bar, the name of the open file is displayed in the
>> same manner.
>>
>> I don't understand why... The first frame is OK!
>
> Check out your default-frame-alist and initial-frame-alist, if you
> customized them. Or maybe you are invoking Emacs with a command-line
> switch that specifies a font.
I invoke emacs with command line: $ emacs
I have this in my .Xresources
Emacs*font: -adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--24-240-75-75-m-150-iso10646-1
But the problem remains if I delete it....
I did not custom any default-frame-alist or initial-frame-alist
< Either way, somehow you are forcing on
> all frames but the initial one a font that doesn't have glyphs for
> some characters,
Absolutely no problems for displaying glyphs in the initial frame.... I
also use indic unicode glyphs without any problems. Problems occur in
the second frame (invoked with C-x 5 2)
--
François Patte
Université Paris Descartes
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* Re: strange display of glyphs in a second window
2014-06-25 21:12 ` François Patte
@ 2014-06-26 2:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2014-06-26 2:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
> From: François Patte <francois.patte@mi.parisdescartes.fr>
> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 23:12:33 +0200
>
> < Either way, somehow you are forcing on
> > all frames but the initial one a font that doesn't have glyphs for
> > some characters,
>
> Absolutely no problems for displaying glyphs in the initial
> frame....
Yes, that's what I said.
What does "C-u C-x =" say in the second frame about the font used to
display the characters that are displayed correctly?
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* Re: strange display of glyphs in a second window
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@ 2014-06-26 8:25 ` François Patte
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From: François Patte @ 2014-06-26 8:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Le 26/06/2014 04:47, Eli Zaretskii a écrit :
>> From: François Patte <francois.patte@mi.parisdescartes.fr>
>> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 23:12:33 +0200
>>
>> < Either way, somehow you are forcing on
>>> all frames but the initial one a font that doesn't have glyphs for
>>> some characters,
>>
>> Absolutely no problems for displaying glyphs in the initial
>> frame....
>
>
> Yes, that's what I said.
>
> What does "C-u C-x =" say in the second frame about the font used to
> display the characters that are displayed correctly?
>
>
If I open the new frame with the same text in both frames, I get for the
same letter:
in the first frame
x:-adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--24-240-75-75-m-150-iso8859-1 (#x64)
in the second frame:
xft:-unknown-FreeMono-normal-normal-normal-*-24-*-*-*-m-0-iso10646-1 (#x45)
More strange: there is an interaction with latex commands; for instance,
{\bfseries some text} is "normal" in the first frame, while it is
displayed as a code point for each character (including spaces and line
feed (C-j)) in the second frame...
Italicized text {\itshape some text} is italicized in yellow color in
the first frame (which the normal behaviour) while it is in upright
character underlined and yellow in the second frame...
I use Auctex; there might be some interaction between Auctex and Emacs....
--
François Patte
Université Paris Descartes
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* Re: strange display of glyphs in a second window
2014-06-26 8:25 ` François Patte
@ 2014-06-26 15:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-26 15:32 ` Damien Wyart
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2014-06-26 15:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
> From: François Patte <francois.patte@mi.parisdescartes.fr>
> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 10:25:45 +0200
>
> > What does "C-u C-x =" say in the second frame about the font used to
> > display the characters that are displayed correctly?
> >
> >
>
> If I open the new frame with the same text in both frames, I get for the
> same letter:
>
> in the first frame
> x:-adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--24-240-75-75-m-150-iso8859-1 (#x64)
>
> in the second frame:
> xft:-unknown-FreeMono-normal-normal-normal-*-24-*-*-*-m-0-iso10646-1 (#x45)
That's your problem: you need to find out why does Emacs try to use
that bad font for your frames. It's some configuration issue on your
system.
> I use Auctex; there might be some interaction between Auctex and Emacs....
If the problem happens in "emacs -Q", then it probably isn't related
to AUCTeX.
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* Re: strange display of glyphs in a second window
2014-06-26 8:25 ` François Patte
2014-06-26 15:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2014-06-26 15:32 ` Damien Wyart
2014-06-27 10:15 ` François Patte
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From: Damien Wyart @ 2014-06-26 15:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
* François Patte <francois.patte@mi.parisdescartes.fr> in gnu.emacs.help:
> in the first frame
> x:-adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--24-240-75-75-m-150-iso8859-1 (#x64)
> in the second frame:
> xft:-unknown-FreeMono-normal-normal-normal-*-24-*-*-*-m-0-iso10646-1 (#x45)
Could you try something like this in your .emacs:
(add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(font . "-adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--24-240-75-75-m-150-iso8859-1"))
?
Trying to search for "FreeMono" in your Emacs config files (and
additional packages) might also give a hint.
--
DW
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* Re: strange display of glyphs in a second window
2014-06-26 15:32 ` Damien Wyart
@ 2014-06-27 10:15 ` François Patte
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From: François Patte @ 2014-06-27 10:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Le 26/06/2014 17:32, Damien Wyart a écrit :
> * François Patte <francois.patte@mi.parisdescartes.fr> in
> gnu.emacs.help:
>> in the first frame
>> x:-adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--24-240-75-75-m-150-iso8859-1
>> (#x64)
>
>> in the second frame:
>> xft:-unknown-FreeMono-normal-normal-normal-*-24-*-*-*-m-0-iso10646-1
>> (#x45)
>
> Could you try something like this in your .emacs:
>
> (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(font .
> "-adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--24-240-75-75-m-150-iso8859-1"))
>
> ?
Thanks, this partially fix the problem: code points disappear, but some
differences remain in the second frame: text in command \textit{some
text} is underlined and not italicized (in emacs, TeX compilation is not
affected!)
>
> Trying to search for "FreeMono" in your Emacs config files (and
> additional packages) might also give a hint.
I tried many grep commands and did not find any FreeMono....
--
François Patte
Université Paris Descartes
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* Re: strange display of glyphs in a second window
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From: François Patte @ 2014-06-27 10:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Le 26/06/2014 17:23, Eli Zaretskii a écrit :
>> From: François Patte <francois.patte@mi.parisdescartes.fr> Date:
>> Thu, 26 Jun 2014 10:25:45 +0200
>>
>>> What does "C-u C-x =" say in the second frame about the font used
>>> to display the characters that are displayed correctly?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> If I open the new frame with the same text in both frames, I get
>> for the same letter:
>>
>> in the first frame
>> x:-adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--24-240-75-75-m-150-iso8859-1
>> (#x64)
>>
>> in the second frame:
>> xft:-unknown-FreeMono-normal-normal-normal-*-24-*-*-*-m-0-iso10646-1
>> (#x45)
>
> That's your problem: you need to find out why does Emacs try to use
> that bad font for your frames. It's some configuration issue on
> your system.
>
>> I use Auctex; there might be some interaction between Auctex and
>> Emacs....
>
> If the problem happens in "emacs -Q", then it probably isn't related
> to AUCTeX.
Problem does not happen with -Q option.... So, I understand what you, it
is related to Auctex...
--
François Patte
Université Paris Descartes
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* Re: strange display of glyphs in a second window
2014-06-25 17:26 strange display of glyphs in a second window François Patte
2014-06-25 17:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
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@ 2014-06-26 11:58 ` Rusi
2014-06-26 13:16 ` François Patte
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From: Rusi @ 2014-06-26 11:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 10:56:24 PM UTC+5:30, François Patte wrote:
> Bonjour,
> I am facing a problem if I open a new frame (C-x 5 2): some glyphs are
> displayed as if emacs could not read them (a square with the code of the
> glyph).
> For instance & is displayed as: 00 in a red square.
> 26
> Also in the bottom bar, the name of the open file is displayed in the
> same manner.
> I don't understand why... The first frame is OK!
> How to correct this?
> thank you.
> --
> Fran�ois Patte
> Universit� Paris Descartes
Perhaps not related to your issue but if you see above what I am seeing:
I dont see
François Patte
Université Paris Descartes
but
Fran�ois Patte
Universit� Paris Descartes
This may not be an emacs issue at all – just set your thunderbird to
use UTF-8 instead of latin-1.
However it may be an indication that your locale settings are not utf-8.
What does the following (at the shell) give? I get for example
$ echo $LANG
en_US.UTF-8
रुसि [Just in case: forcing UTF-8 on this post!]
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* Re: strange display of glyphs in a second window
2014-06-26 11:58 ` Rusi
@ 2014-06-26 13:16 ` François Patte
2014-06-26 13:43 ` Rusi
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From: François Patte @ 2014-06-26 13:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Le 26/06/2014 13:58, Rusi a écrit :
> On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 10:56:24 PM UTC+5:30, François Patte wrote:
>> Bonjour,
>
>> I am facing a problem if I open a new frame (C-x 5 2): some glyphs are
>> displayed as if emacs could not read them (a square with the code of the
>> glyph).
>
>> For instance & is displayed as: 00 in a red square.
>> 26
>
>> Also in the bottom bar, the name of the open file is displayed in the
>> same manner.
>
>> I don't understand why... The first frame is OK!
>
>> How to correct this?
>
>> thank you.
>> --
>> Fran�ois Patte
>> Universit� Paris Descartes
>
> Perhaps not related to your issue but if you see above what I am seeing:
>
> I dont see
>
> François Patte
> Université Paris Descartes
>
> but
>
> Fran�ois Patte
> Universit� Paris Descartes
>
> This may not be an emacs issue at all – just set your thunderbird to
> use UTF-8 instead of latin-1.
>
> However it may be an indication that your locale settings are not utf-8.
> What does the following (at the shell) give? I get for example
>
> $ echo $LANG
> en_US.UTF-8
$ echo $LANG
fr_FR.utf8
>
>
> रुसि [Just in case: forcing UTF-8 on this post!]
फ्रंस
--
François Patte
Université Paris Descartes
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* Re: strange display of glyphs in a second window
2014-06-26 13:16 ` François Patte
@ 2014-06-26 13:43 ` Rusi
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From: Rusi @ 2014-06-26 13:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
On Thursday, June 26, 2014 6:46:47 PM UTC+5:30, François Patte wrote:
> Le 26/06/2014 13:58, Rusi a écrit :
> > On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 10:56:24 PM UTC+5:30, François Patte wrote:
> >> Bonjour,
> >> I am facing a problem if I open a new frame (C-x 5 2): some glyphs are
> >> displayed as if emacs could not read them (a square with the code of the
> >> glyph).
> >> For instance & is displayed as: 00 in a red square.
> >> 26
> >> Also in the bottom bar, the name of the open file is displayed in the
> >> same manner.
> >> I don't understand why... The first frame is OK!
> >> How to correct this?
> >> thank you.
> >> --
> >> Fran�ois Patte
> >> Universit� Paris Descartes
> > Perhaps not related to your issue but if you see above what I am seeing:
> > I dont see
> > François Patte
> > Université Paris Descartes
> > but
> > Fran�ois Patte
> > Universit� Paris Descartes
> > This may not be an emacs issue at all – just set your thunderbird to
> > use UTF-8 instead of latin-1.
> > However it may be an indication that your locale settings are not utf-8.
> > What does the following (at the shell) give? I get for example
> > $ echo $LANG
> > en_US.UTF-8
> $ echo $LANG
> fr_FR.utf8
Ok so thats not the issue then. And I dont know what is.
In any case it might be worthwhile making sure of UTF-8 in thunderbird:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Font_settings_in_Thunderbird#Character_encoding
> > रुसि [Just in case: forcing UTF-8 on this post!]
> फ्रंस
:-)
> --
> François Patte
> Université Paris Descartes
Seems to be working now (the ç and the é)
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