From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#25548: 25.1; Wrong Emacs version for Emacs 25.1.2 (?) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:30:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <38cc5265-9e0f-433b-bb6e-02f371006061@default> References: <7901d1e7-e41f-4877-a1bb-6b059d10f39a@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1485469949 15415 195.159.176.226 (26 Jan 2017 22:32:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 22:32:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 25548@debbugs.gnu.org To: Noam Postavsky Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 26 23:32:22 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWsaY-00030B-B5 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 23:32:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41487 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cWsaa-0005eB-IY for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 17:32:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58887) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cWsaN-0005da-Td for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 17:32:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cWsaJ-0004bk-BC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 17:32:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:48193) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cWsaJ-0004ba-87 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 17:32:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWsaI-00070a-Px for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 17:32:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 22:32:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25548 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 25548-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25548.148546986926790 (code B ref 25548); Thu, 26 Jan 2017 22:32:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 25548) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2017 22:31:09 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46372 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWsZR-0006y2-5x for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 17:31:09 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:34331) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWsZP-0006xP-6d for 25548@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 17:31:08 -0500 Original-Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id v0QMV00k028682 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 26 Jan 2017 22:31:01 GMT Original-Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v0QMUxdH021263 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 26 Jan 2017 22:31:00 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0004.oracle.com (abhmp0004.oracle.com [141.146.116.10]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v0QMUxtV031149; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 22:30:59 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 12.0.6753.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:128618 Archived-At: > > This is the zip file I picked up: > > emacs-25.1-2-x86_64-w64-mingw32.zip 29-Nov-2016 14:12 91M > > But when I open Emacs and use M-x emacs-version it tells me that it is > > Emacs 21.1.1. And you can see that below, as well. > > > > What gives? Is this correct or a bug? How are users supposed to > > understand the version numbering - is this 25.1.1 or 25.1.2 or > > something else? >=20 > It's 25.1-2, that is a second release of version 25.1. The first one > was compiled without optimization. > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2016-11/msg00293.html Sorry, but I still don't understand. What's the difference between 25.1-2 and 25.1.2? Do both 25.1-1 (whatever/wherever that is) and 25.1-2 correspond to 25.1.1? Where does a user see the version number 25.1-2 (or whatever kind of number it is, if it is not a version number)? How, from Emacs itself, does a user tell the difference between 25.1-1 and 25.1-2? These were the zip files downloaded, respectively: emacs-25.1-x86_64-mingw32.zip emacs-25.1-2-x86_64-w64-mingw32.zip What does a user (or code) look for within Emacs, to tell the difference? And are these releases? Release candidates? Pretest builds? How to know? Is all this supposed to be clear to users? Where do they learn about such nomenclature (zip and release)? At the mirrors where you download these things there is no description/explanation. (They don't even tell you what the difference is between zips x86 and i86.) I realize that building and uploading Emacs for Windows is a volunteer effort, and I'm grateful for it. But can we perhaps make the zip naming clearer? (I'm guessing at this point that there might not be any Emacs-detectable version difference, in spite of the zip name difference.)