From: Bruno Haible <bruno@clisp.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: jporterbugs@gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
bug-gnulib@gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, 57129@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#57129: 29.0.50; Improve behavior of conditionals in Eshell
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2022 02:13:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3893771.2iPT33SAM4__42799.7225242265$1661213660$gmane$org@nimes> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2dc7ede0-eca7-baf5-f89a-f5d292b80808@cs.ucla.edu>
Paul Eggert wrote:
> Thanks for the detailed diagnosis, Bruno. To try to fix the problems I
> installed the attached patches into Gnulib.
These look all good. Here's again my evaluation of the three scenarios:
(Q1) What is the expected quality inside a single gen_tempname call?
It depends on quality of random_bits(). Usually on the quality of
getrandom(), which is good on most systems. And for the other systems,
the "ersatz" in random_bits() gives reasonable quality.
(Q2) What is the expected quality of multiple gen_tempname calls in a
single process?
(Q3) What is the expected quality when considering different processes
that call gen_tempname?
Both have the same answer: The file name essentially depends on the
first call to random_bits(). Two different calls to random_bits()
can be correlated only if
- getrandom() is not well supported, and
- CLOCK_REALTIME is not defined, and
- we're in the same process, less than 0.01 sec apart.
IMO, that's good enough.
> If I understand things
> correctly, these patches should fix the 0.1% failure rate you observed
> on 64-bit mingw.
Yes. Running the "case 2" part 1000 times again, among the 2000 generated
file names, there are no duplicates — neither on 32-bit mingw, nor on 64-bit
mingw.
> They also fix a minor security leak I discovered: in
> rare cases, ASLR entropy was used to generate publicly visible file
> names, which is a no-no as that might help an attacker infer the
> randomized layout of a victim process.
Excellent observation :-)
> These fixes follow some but not all the suggestions you made. The basic
> problem I saw was that tempname.c was using too much belt-and-suspenders
> code, so much so that the combination of belts and suspenders
> misbehaved. I simplified it a bit and this removed the need for some of
> the suggestions.
Thanks. The major quality boost comes from invoking getrandom() always.
Bruno
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Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-08-11 2:43 bug#57129: 29.0.50; Improve behavior of conditionals in Eshell Jim Porter
2022-08-11 2:46 ` Jim Porter
2022-08-12 15:22 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-13 5:14 ` Jim Porter
2022-08-13 7:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-13 18:56 ` Jim Porter
2022-08-14 5:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-14 5:37 ` Jim Porter
2022-08-14 7:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-14 21:40 ` Jim Porter
2022-08-15 12:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-15 16:14 ` Jim Porter
2022-08-15 16:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-15 18:08 ` Jim Porter
2022-08-15 18:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-15 18:30 ` Jim Porter
2022-08-15 18:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-15 20:55 ` Paul Eggert
[not found] ` <af0af29b-2362-77db-081e-046158937808@cs.ucla.edu>
2022-08-15 21:22 ` Bruno Haible
2022-08-16 11:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <835yish2l1.fsf@gnu.org>
2022-08-16 13:35 ` Bruno Haible
[not found] ` <1871347.6tgchFWduM@nimes>
2022-08-16 13:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <838rnofgad.fsf@gnu.org>
2022-08-16 14:40 ` Bruno Haible
2022-08-16 16:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <83wnb8dukz.fsf@gnu.org>
2022-08-16 16:54 ` Paul Eggert
[not found] ` <206e38df-2db4-a46a-e0ff-952bc8ab939c@cs.ucla.edu>
2022-08-16 17:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <83sflwdsr2.fsf@gnu.org>
2022-08-16 17:30 ` Paul Eggert
2022-08-16 17:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <ceeeaa86-6199-93b1-ff65-bbd3e531e235@cs.ucla.edu>
2022-08-16 17:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-16 17:25 ` Paul Eggert
2022-08-16 17:29 ` Bruno Haible
[not found] ` <f329244a-cba7-65cd-2e5d-2630eba3e9e9@cs.ucla.edu>
2022-08-16 17:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-16 19:11 ` Paul Eggert
[not found] ` <d95734ab-6bbc-7403-c1f8-fbf742badda4@cs.ucla.edu>
2022-08-16 20:12 ` Bruno Haible
2022-08-17 11:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <83h72bdt4z.fsf@gnu.org>
2022-08-18 6:05 ` Paul Eggert
[not found] ` <57b8f10f-8e9b-5951-e5ad-8cba2a8cb569@cs.ucla.edu>
2022-08-18 6:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <2594092.Isy0gbHreE@nimes>
2022-08-16 17:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-16 20:06 ` Bruno Haible
[not found] ` <2606289.q0ZmV6gNhb@nimes>
2022-08-17 11:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-16 19:59 ` Bruno Haible
[not found] ` <2135151.C4sosBPzcN@nimes>
2022-08-16 20:53 ` Paul Eggert
2022-08-21 16:20 ` Bruno Haible
2022-08-21 16:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-21 17:17 ` Bruno Haible
2022-08-22 20:47 ` Paul Eggert
[not found] ` <2dc7ede0-eca7-baf5-f89a-f5d292b80808@cs.ucla.edu>
2022-08-23 0:13 ` Bruno Haible [this message]
[not found] ` <3893771.2iPT33SAM4@nimes>
2022-08-23 11:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <831qt79pjj.fsf@gnu.org>
2022-08-23 14:49 ` Bruno Haible
2022-08-23 16:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-20 18:03 ` Jim Porter
2022-08-20 18:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-20 18:49 ` Jim Porter
2022-08-24 21:41 ` Jim Porter
2022-08-26 5:10 ` Jim Porter
2023-03-16 5:35 ` Jim Porter
2022-08-14 5:03 ` Sean Whitton
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