From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#17530: 24.4.50; `package-load-list': incorrect defcustom type Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2019 18:18:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <385c8973-7841-4972-92ba-5c5af4812e8c@default> References: <8828b8fa-29e3-4888-928e-b25c92e4923d@default> <87impta7ug.fsf@gmail.com> <87ftkx9lll.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="265588"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: Stefan Kangas , 17530@debbugs.gnu.org To: Noam Postavsky Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 16 03:19:37 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1i9ffx-0016uz-DM for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Mon, 16 Sep 2019 01:18:22 GMT Original-Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2v0p8twf0k-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 16 Sep 2019 01:18:22 +0000 Original-Received: from abhmp0013.oracle.com (abhmp0013.oracle.com [141.146.116.19]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id x8G1IKFX010426; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 01:18:20 GMT In-Reply-To: <87ftkx9lll.fsf@gmail.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4888.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9381 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1908290000 definitions=main-1909160012 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9381 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1908290000 definitions=main-1909160011 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:166530 Archived-At: > > Isn't "installing" essentially downloading, compiling, > > and setting up autoloads? It doesn't imply loading, > > AFAIK. N> package-load-list controls the "setting up autoloads" (and load-path) N> part. OK. S> the overwhelmingly common use case is that a user S> only installs a package that he/she wants to use. OK. I'll take your word for it. But it's not what I expected. I'm no expert on package.el or how most people use it. It seemed odd to me that just installing should, by default, also automatically load everything installed. But I guess that's a misunderstanding on my part. I use `load-path' and `require', and I've put tons of stuff in my `load-path' that I rarely, if ever, load. I imagined that many package users would similarly install stuff they don't want to load systematically.