From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Davis Herring" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: *scratch* buffer Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 09:16:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <38510.128.165.123.18.1183392973.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> References: <93CF6922-CA47-4100-9644-D2BC7C182FAF@gmail.com> <33953.128.165.123.18.1182992804.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> <87ved6rart.fsf@jurta.org> Reply-To: herring@lanl.gov NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1183393021 31068 80.91.229.12 (2 Jul 2007 16:17:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 16:17:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: david.reitter@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Juri Linkov" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 02 18:17:00 2007 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1I5Oa5-0006om-AA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2007 18:16:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I5Oa4-0006Od-DK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2007 12:16:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I5OZa-0006EV-Pl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2007 12:16:22 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I5OZZ-0006EB-V3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2007 12:16:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I5OZZ-0006E8-KR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2007 12:16:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mailwasher.lanl.gov ([192.65.95.54] helo=mailwasher-b.lanl.gov) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I5OZZ-00015N-9I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2007 12:16:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mailrelay1.lanl.gov (mailrelay1.lanl.gov [128.165.4.101]) by mailwasher-b.lanl.gov (8.13.8/8.13.6/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id l62GGEdI019328 for ; Mon, 2 Jul 2007 10:16:14 -0600 Original-Received: from webmail1.lanl.gov (webmail1.lanl.gov [128.165.4.106]) by mailrelay1.lanl.gov (8.13.8/8.13.8/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id l62GGD1p010316; Mon, 2 Jul 2007 10:16:14 -0600 Original-Received: from webmail1.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by webmail1.lanl.gov (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l62GGD5o013464; Mon, 2 Jul 2007 10:16:13 -0600 Original-Received: (from apache@localhost) by webmail1.lanl.gov (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11/Submit) id l62GGDFc013461; Mon, 2 Jul 2007 09:16:13 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: webmail1.lanl.gov: apache set sender to herring@lanl.gov using -f Original-Received: from 128.165.123.18 (SquirrelMail authenticated user 196434) by webmail.lanl.gov with HTTP; Mon, 2 Jul 2007 09:16:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87ved6rart.fsf@jurta.org> User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-6.el3.2lanl X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075 X-CTN-5-MailScanner-Information: Please see http://network.lanl.gov/email/virus-scan.php X-CTN-5-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CTN-5-MailScanner-From: herring@lanl.gov X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:74186 Archived-At: > In the case of saving the scratch buffer in a file like ~/.emacs.d/scratch > the standard Emacs file locking mechanism takes care of this. So then editing *scratch* should generate lock-steal queries? And attempting to exit Emacs should have to prompt about overwriting a more recent version of a file the user has -never visited-? To me the implicit persistence (or "invisible" saving) just sounds confusing. Davis -- This product is sold by volume, not by mass. If it appears too dense or too sparse, it is because mass-energy conversion has occurred during shipping.