From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: advertizing keyboard macros better [was: Unuseful keybindings] Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 17:54:14 -0800 Message-ID: <3816BC396A9E4771B4B1F258C9BE14B3@us.oracle.com> References: <87sj73qzvl.fsf@gmail.com> <87623zquvw.fsf@gmail.com> <87ip7zdud3.fsf@gmail.com> <87ehiiu5x7.fsf@gnu.org> <876A7D1112084247AE53F7EE42B4587C@us.oracle.com> <80ehih3hlj.fsf@somewhere.org> <87pq21iwrw.fsf@yandex.ru> <87AE81CEB91846DB94BC5F3B40C788DE@us.oracle.com> <50D64318.5030501@yandex.ru> <0FBA2D9ECA214D82B5C65E5A09E7EE19@us.oracle.com> <20121223090709.6b8eb8a13b4a19006d38600d@gmail.com> <50D65C31.5020503@dancol.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1356227682 13133 80.91.229.3 (23 Dec 2012 01:54:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 01:54:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: public-emacs-devel-mXXj517/zsQ@plane.gmane.org, 'Dmitry Gutov' , 'Sebastien Vauban' , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "'Daniel Colascione'" , "'Xue Fuqiao'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 23 02:54:56 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TmamF-00036j-To for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 02:54:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37405 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tmam1-0002sz-W4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 20:54:41 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34360) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tmalv-0002sm-1o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 20:54:40 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tmalt-0006ij-Nf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 20:54:34 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:40377) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tmalt-0006iY-GS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 20:54:33 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id qBN1sNHr023676 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 23 Dec 2012 01:54:24 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qBN1sM80022336 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 23 Dec 2012 01:54:22 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt118.oracle.com (abhmt118.oracle.com [141.146.116.70]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id qBN1sM9I019482; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 19:54:22 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/71.202.147.44) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 22 Dec 2012 17:54:22 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <50D65C31.5020503@dancol.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Thread-Index: Ac3gq5zmfo37W1cSQ+Wr6kYJinvJGQABGFjA X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 156.151.31.81 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:155796 Archived-At: > I don't use keyboard macros often enough to justify > binding f3 and f4. On the other hand, we really don't do > enough to publicize keyboard macros. No other editor has > good macro support, and the feature is a great competitive > advantage for Emacs. It'd be nice to introduce new users to > keyboard macros earlier. It's been a long time since I've gone through the Emacs tutorial. Is there not an example or two of creating and using a keyboard macro there? If not then perhaps there should be. Likewise for any "tours" we provide.