From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xah Lee Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Crockford's video, and why emacs vi is the way they are Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 01:33:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <380a4d30-ed5e-4f7d-b529-61f9261506b9@p5g2000pbs.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1350117314 31244 80.91.229.3 (13 Oct 2012 08:35:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 08:35:14 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 13 10:35:21 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TMxBo-0000LW-Qr for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 10:35:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40324 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TMxBi-00079W-4S for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 04:35:14 -0400 Original-Received: by 10.66.85.137 with SMTP id h9mr1881199paz.16.1350117221396; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 01:33:41 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.68.135.103 with SMTP id pr7mt6233396pbb.7.1350117221258; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 01:33:41 -0700 (PDT) Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!kt20no30512345pbb.1!news-out.google.com!jt13ni6326pbb.1!nntp.google.com!kr7no25390295pbb.0!postnews.google.com!p5g2000pbs.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: p5g2000pbs.googlegroups.com; posting-host=76.126.112.84; posting-account=bRPKjQoAAACxZsR8_VPXCX27T2YcsyMA Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.126.112.84 User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.4 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/22.0.1229.94 Safari/537.4,gzip(gfe) Injection-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 08:33:41 +0000 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:194896 comp.emacs:102636 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:87229 Archived-At: =E3=80=88The Modernization of Emacs (Simple Changes Emacs Should Adopt)=E3= =80=89 http://ergoemacs.org/emacs/modernization.html If for nothing, you should watch Crockford's video there. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=3Dplayer_embedded&v=3DJxAXlJEmNMg he explains many things about why emacs or vi is the way they are, and many conventions we know in programing, such as 80 char per line.