From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21472: 25.0.50; REGRESSION: (emacs) `Coding Systems' uses curly quotes for Lisp strings Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 06:51:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37f2a01b-f61a-4eff-814f-ae6857b6eafd@default> References: <> <<83vbbe9j7k.fsf@gnu.org>> <<661f3a80-cdaf-47f0-a096-4be744409150@default>> <<83pp1la58d.fsf@gnu.org>> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1442238746 17322 80.91.229.3 (14 Sep 2015 13:52:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 13:52:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 21472@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 14 15:52:12 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZbUB2-0003Va-2A for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 15:52:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40966 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZbUB1-0004Qr-HB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 09:52:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54319) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZbUAx-0004Pq-EM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 09:52:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZbUAs-0007Rn-B0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 09:52:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:39355) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZbUAs-0007Rh-7z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 09:52:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZbUAs-0006xy-20 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 09:52:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 13:52:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21472 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 21472-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21472.144223869226705 (code B ref 21472); Mon, 14 Sep 2015 13:52:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21472) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Sep 2015 13:51:32 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59798 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZbUAN-0006wf-IV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 09:51:31 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:33462) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZbUAL-0006wR-Cy for 21472@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 09:51:29 -0400 Original-Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t8EDpRYb012628 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 14 Sep 2015 13:51:27 GMT Original-Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t8EDpRB5025361 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 14 Sep 2015 13:51:27 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0019.oracle.com (abhmp0019.oracle.com [141.146.116.25]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t8EDpQ6W019469; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 13:51:26 GMT In-Reply-To: <<83pp1la58d.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:106532 Archived-At: > > The point of this bug is that those *particular* terms do > > not belong between curly double-quotes (IMHO). >=20 > Yes, they do. Why? Why are we quoting "unix" and "dos"? Why not quote "UNIX" and "DOS"? What is the reasoning behind this? Apparently these are not literal programming strings - or if they are, it's not clear how they are used as strings. > > If they were ordinary text being quoted then they would be (should > > be) capitalized - "unix", "dos", etc. are written incorrectly for > > such a usage. >=20 > Quoted text in Info manuals ends up with curly quotes when you use > Texinfo 5.x and later. How does that respond to the cited sentence it follows? Quoted text might end up with curly quotes. The question is why these words should be quoted (using ordinary text quotes), and if they should (no reason given so far) then why they should be lowercase.