From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Samuel Banya" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: DragonFlyBSD Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 10:22:09 -0500 Message-ID: <36a8038d-82fa-45b2-845e-706e58925a55@www.fastmail.com> References: <83tucvz53x.fsf@gnu.org> <87sfsecw2c.fsf@zoho.eu> <87r17wydgk.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11403"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.5.0-alpha0-4778-g14fba9972e-fm-20220217.001-g14fba997 To: "Emanuel Berg" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 21 16:23:30 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nMAXA-0002gu-7z for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Mon, 21 Feb 2022 10:22:31 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=64.147.123.25; envelope-from=sbanya@fastmail.com; helo=wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:136115 Archived-At: I honestly wish there was a list of sane distros that were easy to install, and had the latest Emacs version available right off the bat in their default command line package manager. I mention this because I recently tried to compile from source on Puppy Linux, but doing so was such a hassle. Had to resort to using the PPA version on the Ubuntu derivative of it, but haven't used it in a while to be honest. Been just stuck on Manjaro so far since its one of the only sane ones that are easier to install. Was rolling with Fedora recently but don't like the whole 'LVM' by default --> wish they would give other options for installing the file system on that distro. Sincerely, Sam On Mon, Feb 21, 2022, at 9:03 AM, Jean Louis wrote: > * Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor [2022-02-21 08:53]: > > Jean Louis wrote: > > > > > What I like is system consistency, like what Debian has, > > > that one can upgrade the system over and over again without > > > reboot, and all things work. Uptime like 536 days or 966 > > > days is what I have now on some computers with Debian. > > > > Yeah I've used Debian for a long time, I like it a lot but > > don't say necessarily it is better than other distros. > > For me, I look from freedom viewpoint, I cannot recommend Debian as it > will recommend non-free software to fellows. So I exclude non-free and > use those FSF fully free distributions, sometimes self-made > distribution for myself only. It's not that hard to build it yourself. > > > In particular, I think the package manager system and whole idea > > installing stuff explicitely from the command line should be > > replaced by a declarative system. It would have rollback features > > and all, but that's not the most important thing, the most important > > thing would be to have the system configurable and setup with > > precision and ease in text files like you do everything else in > > computing ... > > I don't like text files. I expect system to be very adjustable through > user friendly menus, not text files. > > Yes, I would like something as registry or database with keys and > values, something very firm and error prone. And on GUI I would be > doing it with mouse. > > In fact I expect in 21st century that computer knows me enough, so > that I do not need to adjust anything, when I install the system, it > would ask me few questions and I would answer by voice, computer would > set it up. Why I need to configure it in text files in 21st century, I > don't know. > > > -- > Jean > > Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: > https://www.fsf.org/campaigns > > In support of Richard M. Stallman > https://stallmansupport.org/ > >