From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Davis Herring" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: display-completion-list should not strip text properties Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 16:42:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36962.128.165.123.18.1189122145.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> References: Reply-To: herring@lanl.gov NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1189122164 23419 80.91.229.12 (6 Sep 2007 23:42:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 23:42:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: bob@rattlesnake.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 07 01:42:39 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ITQzd-0006wK-Ow for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 01:42:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ITQzb-00028q-Rx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:42:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ITQzY-00028J-Cz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:42:32 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ITQzW-000282-Oz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:42:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ITQzW-00027z-KQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:42:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mailwasher.lanl.gov ([192.65.95.54] helo=mailwasher-b.lanl.gov) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ITQzW-0007Ry-2D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:42:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mailrelay1.lanl.gov (mailrelay1.lanl.gov [128.165.4.101]) by mailwasher-b.lanl.gov (8.13.8/8.13.6/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id l86NgRS5017063; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:42:27 -0600 Original-Received: from webmail1.lanl.gov (webmail1.lanl.gov [128.165.4.106]) by mailrelay1.lanl.gov (8.13.8/8.13.8/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id l86NgPIl031575; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:42:25 -0600 Original-Received: from webmail1.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by webmail1.lanl.gov (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l86NgPRN003518; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:42:25 -0600 Original-Received: (from apache@localhost) by webmail1.lanl.gov (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11/Submit) id l86NgPX9003516; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 16:42:25 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: webmail1.lanl.gov: apache set sender to herring@lanl.gov using -f Original-Received: from 128.165.123.18 (SquirrelMail authenticated user 196434) by webmail.lanl.gov with HTTP; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 16:42:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-6.el3.2lanl X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-CTN-5-MailScanner-Information: Please see http://network.lanl.gov/email/virus-scan.php X-CTN-5-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CTN-5-MailScanner-From: herring@lanl.gov X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:78050 Archived-At: > If a person is listening to Emacs (via Emacspeak) because they are > driving a car, I do not want them on the same road as me if the > docstring fails them. I can imagine all too well of someone else > taking is eyes off the road to look at a graphic or icon on a computer > screen. Er, what? I've never heard of anyone consulting Emacs docstrings while driving. I'm much more worried about people trying to watch movies or read (with their eyes, because they don't know about Emacs or Emacspeak) email while on the road. The possibility that we might tempt someone so foolish with a pretty picture in a manual or docstring is not worth considering. That said, there might of course be other reasons (stylistic, technical, or accessibility-oriented) to have text-only docstrings; this just isn't one as far as I can tell. Davis -- This product is sold by volume, not by mass. If it appears too dense or too sparse, it is because mass-energy conversion has occurred during shipping.