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boundary="fOLmwhUooWE1L3TdEC4TgiPGWSlDOpjqg"; protected-headers="v1" From: =?UTF-8?Q?Cl=c3=a9ment_Pit--Claudel?= To: Drew Adams , Nils Berg , 24379@debbugs.gnu.org Message-ID: <35566841-27d9-670e-0a77-d83563d8b35b@gmail.com> Subject: Re: bug#24379: [PATCH] lisp/bindings.el: Bind (yank-pop -1) to M-Y References: <301ed440-5d6e-4fc9-9fb9-c1991ed9c457@default> In-Reply-To: --fOLmwhUooWE1L3TdEC4TgiPGWSlDOpjqg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2016-09-06 11:36, Drew Adams wrote: > Users can always override any key bindings, of course. > But many users are hesitant to override default bindings, > for whatever reasons. > > =E2=80=A6 > > Yes, and my `M-y' is only turned on in Icicle minor mode (but > which I am always in). You can drop that example, if you like, > and just google for `emacs "M-y"' if you would like to see what > other users do with `M-y'. I'm having trouble reconciling these two statements: on the one hand peop= le don't like overriding existing bindings, but on the other hand many pe= ople override the existing M-y binding? > My point was the _general_ one that I stated: (1) Many users > have their own uses of `M-y' and `C-M-y'. And (2) adding this > particular binding is not helpful - it is trivial for anyone > to add it, if they really want it. I don't understand. All bindings are trivial to add. That doesn't make an= y of them less helpful. --fOLmwhUooWE1L3TdEC4TgiPGWSlDOpjqg-- --ow1EvPTDd0lNpqu8C0KlFJP4ehKxXOP8Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXzuPxAAoJEPqg+cTm90wjARQP/RPi/4D1sXyZpzHwB2zZJOvL UGcjlRysji/MoplbyFMsoLJx0zLYqc2S3DN0KryQkExxh7Wc5bn9By1TeDFk/yV4 GMkHXDEELJ9y2aUV1Ik0U5BCdhoVnT8Ki+IKgDFIF5e9lq+CVeWv8+Qms1MJXYfU Kun9r8xYC68BRn5gYDJgVgABHP4J4TkPEn3Wn1NzggZZSJDRPxz5XwSNHVXsplsH 4VzXzmMWQxni/OszsipqA/mXWZD2iKaUX5F1sx+NX92Pv+HxYNtO0YZqBRu5VJCz BJYrhNhIRk3nlw4XeamwBoTFzgovTCIjbWo+AcuoaLU1rVDcdT+aqhkZ1aOMcAJH gLoU3S6Vn7t5ZQZ3w38D8XvRvj6nimdledaojyMMCZfpprQMjzAKOnDcwpnntZ+D si1MwKBR/uZ+ERluI52irOpgnOJjeiKR+Dw+spfA4iKIZGds8eAMl/6d1BTvSQU0 bM0YrusO6KsReoQmb6gWWSp5zMIA+jTLAtEQbN1UhEcxDGMFkemrUXrr+XAsJC4E RIieIEWRqnBulkPPbSscrpYEoIKOlFE780Y1EkK3HX1b6/S2q689QiBGC5GxY/XB sE1U2hojrdPNGMzB3aG7eIohq87ixqqNsDBHyeRYsNj2VixqdgHO8i/ujqV6IFPU 52vzVP0n1QhfHd5vEjve =Wpnz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ow1EvPTDd0lNpqu8C0KlFJP4ehKxXOP8Q--