From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Input for TTY menus Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 11:32:41 +0200 Message-ID: <35366097-5591-47F6-A1E7-12D3B7708958@swipnet.se> References: <831u4llymo.fsf@gnu.org> <83r4bjoq33.fsf@gnu.org> <83bo2nnkel.fsf@gnu.org> <837gdbndpy.fsf@gnu.org> <83y55qn1dz.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E4D91AC7-8114-4C52-83F3-41D5E9F364E6" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1382261587 9297 80.91.229.3 (20 Oct 2013 09:33:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 09:33:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , yandros@mit.edu, emacs-devel To: Darren Hoo Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 20 11:33:07 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VXpNf-0004mq-7r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 11:33:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35525 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VXpNc-0000Li-Fq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 05:33:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45697) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VXpNU-0000LH-BF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 05:32:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VXpNO-0006LS-GV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 05:32:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mail01.bdtv.se ([176.10.222.34]:42367) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VXpNO-0006Kz-6C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 05:32:46 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 7295 invoked by uid 89); 20 Oct 2013 09:32:41 -0000 Original-Received: from h-46-59-42-57.na.cust.bahnhof.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) (boel.djarv@bdtv.se@46.59.42.57) by mail01.bdtv.se with ESMTPA; 20 Oct 2013 09:32:41 -0000 Original-Received: from [172.20.199.13] (unknown [172.20.199.13]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 046FD1A01A3; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 09:32:40 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 176.10.222.34 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:164388 Archived-At: --Apple-Mail=_E4D91AC7-8114-4C52-83F3-41D5E9F364E6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello. 19 okt 2013 kl. 21:07 skrev Darren Hoo : > HI Jan, >=20 > Sorry, your fix is right, just ignore my last mail. >=20 Actually you have a point, services do exist for GNUStep GUI version, so = the menu item should be there, but not when running in a terminal. I have made changes to this effect in trunk. > On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 2:58 AM, Darren Hoo = wrote: > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >=20 > > What about my questions about the "Services" menu? I don't think = you > > answered those. >=20 > Thanks chad for explaining what services menu for me. >=20 > Jan, >=20 > your 114716 commit totally removes the services menu. But I think = some GUI=20 > users may use it, I sometimes use it while not quite often. >=20 > How about bring it back? I have tested the following patch on OSX,=20 > While I tried Emacs on GNUStep it crashes , but I don't think the = crash is=20 > related to this. GNUStep installation is a mess, there are font issues, you must choose = the correct backend, and there is lots of bugs. I only get acceptable = results when running GNUStep 0.21 or newer on Fedora 18 or newer. = Mint/Ubuntu for example is a no-go regardless of version of GNUStep. >=20 > I am curious that how many users use Emacs on GNUStep nowadays? >=20 No idea, might be just me :-). But it is a GNU-project, thats the main = reason it is supported. Jan D. --Apple-Mail=_E4D91AC7-8114-4C52-83F3-41D5E9F364E6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 darren.hoo@gmail.com>:
HI Jan,

Sorry, your fix is right, just = ignore my last mail.


Ac= tually you have a point, services do exist for GNUStep GUI version, so = the menu item should be there, but not when running in a = terminal.

I have made changes to this effect in = trunk.

On = Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 2:58 AM, Darren Hoo <darren.hoo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 9:40 = PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

> What about my questions about the "Services" menu?  I = don't think you
> answered those.

Thanks chad for explaining what =  services menu for me.

Jan,

your  114716 = commit totally removes the services menu. But I think some = GUI 
users may use it, I sometimes use it while not quite = often.

How about bring it back? I have tested the following = patch on OSX, 
While I tried Emacs on GNUStep it crashes = , but I don't think the crash is 
related to = this.
<= div>
GNUStep installation is a mess, there are font issues, you = must choose the correct backend, and there is lots of bugs.  I only = get acceptable results when running GNUStep 0.21 or newer on Fedora 18 = or newer.  Mint/Ubuntu for example is a no-go regardless of version = of GNUStep.


I am curious that how many users use Emacs on GNUStep = nowadays?


No idea, might be just me :-). =  But it is a GNU-project, thats the main reason it is = supported.

Jan = D.

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