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[76.168.148.233]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id q203-20020a632ad4000000b003987c421eb2sm9105561pgq.34.2022.04.16.22.01.18 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 16 Apr 2022 22:01:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87a6ckkath.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:230026 Archived-At: On 4/16/2022 1:55 PM, Sean Whitton wrote: > Suppose that you use the customisation interface to enable the > eshell-rebind module, and save the result in your init. Now upstream > Emacs gains a new on-by-default module, e.g. the recently added > em-extpipe. While everyone who hasn't customised eshell-modules-list > gets the new module automatically, you'll have to customise the variable > again, and you can't even just tick a box to add it, as with the other > truly optional modules, but must manually insert it at the end of the > list. This is no good. Generally I resolve this in my config by using a combination of `add-to-list' and `delete' to manually customize lists like this. Maybe it would be good to provide something like that for users of the Customize interface as well? Then any defcustom that takes a list could either be customized to have an exact set of elements (as it is today), or to have "the default, but with FOO added and BAR removed".