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X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c09::22b X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:218969 Archived-At: On 9/29/17 7:56 PM, Ted Zlatanov wrote: > DG> It's still not clear to me, then. Should Flymake integration be "messy"? > > I'd go for "unsurprising" :) Then the concerns about M-x next-error should still apply. > It might be productive to gather use cases and workflows. Those were > missing in the bug discussion, and will probably make it clearer. > > For instance, my typical Flycheck interaction while writing CFEngine > code is to keep 1-2 cfengine-mode buffers open (next-error just > navigates between syntax errors in the visible buffer) and to sometimes > pop up an Occur buffer (in which case I want to navigate ocurrences for > as long as the Occur buffer is visible). I generally don't compile, > grep, or git grep in that workflow. I wouldn't say I have a specific workflow, but I do have a habit of killing or quitting windows or otherwise hiding buffers which I'm not looking at directly. But there are some scenarios mentioned in the bug discussion, e.g. in https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=20489#74, earlier in https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=20489#44, and earlier again in https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=20489#32. Please send any further replies to this to the bug address.