From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: [found the culprit] Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 09:31:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <340d2bf9-46b9-4bb3-aea6-0f4dd507b6cd@default> References: <875zx1xgiq.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <83lg5w9956.fsf@gnu.org> <87d0r76ewm.fsf_-_@mat.ucm.es> <87tvkjq2mh.fsf_-_@mat.ucm.es> <834lcj8y1f.fsf@gnu.org> <874lcjoauq.fsf@mat.ucm.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1542216685 20572 195.159.176.226 (14 Nov 2018 17:31:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 17:31:25 +0000 (UTC) To: Uwe Brauer , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 14 18:31:21 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gMz0a-0005E7-JK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2018 18:31:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33526 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gMz2h-0001Nv-2E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2018 12:33:31 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36612) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gMz1E-0008Gp-M2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2018 12:32:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gMz19-0003FF-NZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2018 12:32:00 -0500 Original-Received: from userp2120.oracle.com ([156.151.31.85]:49148) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gMz19-0003EZ-EV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2018 12:31:55 -0500 Original-Received: from pps.filterd (userp2120.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp2120.oracle.com (8.16.0.22/8.16.0.22) with SMTP id wAEHNc9Z143803; Wed, 14 Nov 2018 17:31:53 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2018-07-02; bh=XYZFKJ6deKiUtMzdq7P7j8Cdnf1catVXF9Rvig6+QEY=; b=BoVvF4ARKkN+vFaTQUgzBx7MJkGQpC5bISeN7OMJe+CDrLB9zybscYP+33qdum46SN7C lynjemRetL+XYrjNxv/87sfu27sEg36WUmdrnhfWEcxRx+G1GKQJHqjtS5gTSaEjNbAW VfY0Ag7CDxccUbLJt6kysitotkAsbOYVprPFr0jp8zgWNHcseJmZYcpiiRbaO0m/xmZc WRb6mLlnO596m5izNh+D04NAuOvFwqYuc2bWVhVNo4XnT5jpYGaH/TmZTakB9oDTh0pl +1nrnL699E2SV0aVwiX762n0dnxa7lgGVW2uxoUB4AGah5AiOsfi/R0+miUNMDoQYdZk CA== Original-Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by userp2120.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2nr7cs4y5c-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 14 Nov 2018 17:31:53 +0000 Original-Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id wAEHVlUW005074 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 14 Nov 2018 17:31:47 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0018.oracle.com (abhmp0018.oracle.com [141.146.116.24]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id wAEHVlMt022967; Wed, 14 Nov 2018 17:31:47 GMT In-Reply-To: <874lcjoauq.fsf@mat.ucm.es> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4756.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=5900 definitions=9077 signatures=668683 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1810050000 definitions=main-1811140157 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 156.151.31.85 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:231141 Archived-At: >> FWIW, I consider ".tar.gz" (or "tar.lz", ...) as the archive >> format (rather than as a combination of tar and compression): >> since the tar format does not support random access anyway >> there's very little benefit to having it uncompressed (unless >> the content can't be compressed e.g. because it's already compressed). >=20 > Unfortunately some sites require to upload files in tar format and not > in tar.gz format. Yes. Upload, download, email... It's quite possible for a user to obtain a tar file, regardless of whether Stefan - or even everyone here - considers tar.gz to be the only useful archive format. The question is whether `Z' should support tar files. If so, a second question could be whether to have another command that supports only tar.gz (or "tar.lz", tgz, ...) files. > If I understand the current situation correctly, there is no key > combination or interactive function which would allow to just > uncompress a tgz (tar.gz) file? The only option is to use the > dired-do-shell-command? I guess so. One person's enhancement can be another person's annoyance.