From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eli Zaretskii" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: installing emacs and X11 on OS X Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 00:43:51 +0300 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <3405-Sun27Oct2002004351+0200-eliz@is.elta.co.il> References: <87elah9ril.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035672260 32513 80.91.224.249 (26 Oct 2002 22:44:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:44:20 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 185ZfG-0008S8-00 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 00:44:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 185ZfF-0007ha-00; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:44:17 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 185ZdH-0002zC-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:42:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 185ZdF-0002vC-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:42:14 -0400 Original-Received: from odin.inter.net.il ([192.114.186.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 185ZdE-0002nl-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:42:12 -0400 Original-Received: from zaretsky ([80.230.194.63]) by odin.inter.net.il (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.1-GA) with ESMTP id ARG70242; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 00:42:07 +0200 (IST) Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailer: emacs 21.3.50 (via feedmail 8 I) and Blat ver 1.8.9 In-reply-to: (message from Hugo Wolf on Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:41:46 GMT) Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:2979 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:2979 > Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help > From: Hugo Wolf > Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:41:46 GMT > > > I don't know what is "l&f > > Look and feel. Thanks. > When it's running in X11, I want the l&f to > match X11 conventions as best it can (which it already does by > default). When it's running in Aqua, I want the l&f to match Aqua > conventions. When it's running in a terminal, there is no gui so I > don't want to do anything special. Then I suggest this test: (and (eq system-type 'macos) (display-graphic-p)) (I assume that system-type's value is `macos' on Aqua, but I cannot verify if that's indeed so.) > I don't understand why it's so hard to grasp that the gui environment > itself, which emacs represents in the variable window-system, could be > _the_ relevant feature for a certain set of modifications. window-system was never meant to be used by user-level code, its use is deprecated (see etc/NEWS in the Emacs distribution), and it might disappear altogether in a future Emacs version. That's why I think it's basicaly a mistake to use it for anything.