From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Repurpose one key and reserve it for third-party packages Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2021 16:04:17 +0000 Message-ID: <329d68a5ed0dcd10a78a@heytings.org> References: <7ef75c33936136eb3a20@heytings.org> <8735y56naf.fsf@posteo.net> <8ed9b43502ae9a36b057@heytings.org> <87tuqk6d9d.fsf@posteo.net> <3966473cc1ab9f104724@heytings.org> <87o8gr1oom.fsf@posteo.net> <87lfbubthl.fsf@posteo.net> <87tuqia845.fsf@posteo.net> <87pn16a1xn.fsf@posteo.net> <87lfbu9q5x.fsf@posteo.net> <329d68a5ed6d1194f3c0@heytings.org> <87czx5a947.fsf@posteo.net> <329d68a5ed1656b4427e@heytings.org> <87zh098lo4.fsf@posteo.net> <329d68a5ed26ba41356b@heytings.org> <87h7mhgyxj.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6652"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 12 17:05:34 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lAawo-0001cn-BC for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 17:05:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40422 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lAawn-0004Y3-70 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 11:05:33 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56346) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lAavd-0004Uo-HM for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 11:04:21 -0500 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:48312) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lAavb-0005T5-Rm for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 11:04:21 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1613145857; bh=z2I0jh+tSfVoBxGI85KIdLZGdImd3Ny3TPL25dZZO4s=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=hE+IeZLVSATVaVNvxivvmTXcU0NFc1Y3S/NKbeRkcxI2pXqEtco3vy7XNLg46Ns9R V5E9USMhHHXrJbFBpMghtVJbnf+jzYplD2XeUwYZy/iw/p10Ud5vlHnlWGsKokKDVO 8/wrtot0ozj9O9ZdCo++QGsp9a41Y6RbhSPgnFLVjY0KP5/yLWxu9YOaGRAHyF7ub4 kzJVEG+OqPfnJv/rESuYsB4MajmjCQE2KSU2VFG1co4HbDFW4dtrf6MG16fNq9LVb4 k5wCNhhugjnueAd4gr/td3hkNZtsYGKJs1ZMe6eQgbpYUwDkRMusWUqAdIfni2yCBV hdEuWv9als4nw== In-Reply-To: <87h7mhgyxj.fsf@posteo.net> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.142.160.155; envelope-from=gregory@heytings.org; helo=heytings.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:127855 Archived-At: >>> The only real solution that I see is something along the lines of what >>> I recommended: Packages suggest customizations, and package-install >>> may either ignore, ask for confirmation or accept them by default, if >>> there are no problems with what is suggested (eg. collisions). >> >> And that solution cannot be implemented if there is no key space >> reserved for third-party libraries. Which is what the proposal is >> about. The proposal is not about the particular mechanisms that could >> be used to bind keys in that reserved area. > > I argue it can be done, and that the proposal to have packages suggest > keys to bind would avoid the need to designate a special key space for > third-party packages. > I must have misunderstood something in your solution. What are the possible keys a package could suggest, with your solution? What is the set of keys in which package developers can choose keys to suggest to their users?