On 12 Oct 2005, at 06:03, YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu wrote: > I don't find much difference. Of course, there are some differences > in integral/fractional metrics, without/with typographical features > such as kerning. Is the difference more than those? No, not in terms of letter spacing. I've fallen victim to an optical illusion. It's the line-spacing that makes text appear more loose in other apps. Take a look at these screenshots. The enlarged image shows Emacs on the left, and TextEdit on the right. Also, note that the first line is glued to the tool-bar, which doesn't look good at all. (This is with a version from 10-10, apologies I haven't picked up any changes that affect this issue.)