From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: D P Schreber Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: X11 Mac OS X 10.3 emacs fink: only terminal? Date: 14 Dec 2004 16:11:02 GMT Message-ID: <328hkmF3ied8jU1@individual.net> References: <1102952440.733798.50520@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <325srfF3gmkjmU2@individual.net> <326je9F3j7frtU1@individual.net> <327dl2F3gcngrU1@individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1103040904 8925 80.91.229.6 (14 Dec 2004 16:15:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 16:15:04 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 14 17:14:51 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CeFK7-0002CV-00 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 2004 17:14:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CeFUG-000076-Cn for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Dec 2004 11:25:20 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsmi-us.news.garr.it!newsmi-eu.news.garr.it!NewsITBone-GARR!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 32 Original-X-Trace: individual.net HlE2nTCgwVXzFREMwEBjmwjKNOJ8NxfP38Jg7aUF9IbhU8hprt User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (Darwin) Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:127308 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:22742 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:22742 On 2004-12-14, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: >BM> If you don't care for Apple's GUI, why are you even bothering to run OS >BM> X instead of GNU/Linux? It seems strange to use a Mac and then >BM> essentially ignore its distinguishing feature. > > Maybe due better HW support ? He could run darwin in that case. As Barry says, it's pretty strange to buy a copy of osx if you don't like the windowing system. All this is somewhat beside the point though. The carbon support code is part of gnu emacs, so OF COURSE this is an appropriate forum for discussing it. Otoh it's not the right forum for discussing the pros and cons of different window systems in general, which is why I never raised that topic. We have our UT friend to thank for that. All I said was if the OP had only been interested in getting a windowed emacs running locally (which is how I understood his original post), then the best way to do that would be to use emacs' support for the local window system. Seems pretty uncontroversial to me. > The big problem in Mac OS X is that cp and othe file system related > utilities are broken since they do not consider multi-fork files. Now we're way off topic, but since you raised it: very few applications use resource forks anymore, and file management tools are readily available for the handful of cases in which they are used. If that's the big problem with osx, it's pretty much been solved already. > >