From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alexandre Garreau Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Future of display engine and lines Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2021 14:20:35 +0200 Message-ID: <3289249.facs6qH1zK@galex-713.eu> References: <2108181.AU8Z245p1N@galex-713.eu> <834k952tti.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29079"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 25 14:26:26 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mez3Z-0007Nx-HP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 14:26:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44066 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mez3X-0002xV-FR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 08:26:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51160) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1meyyB-0004u4-6V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 08:20:51 -0400 Original-Received: from portable.galex-713.eu ([2a00:5884:8305::1]:50290 helo=galex-713.eu) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1meyy7-00017o-O2; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 08:20:50 -0400 Original-Received: from gal by galex-713.eu with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1meyxw-0006yq-LV; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 14:20:36 +0200 In-Reply-To: <834k952tti.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:5884:8305::1; envelope-from=galex-713@galex-713.eu; helo=galex-713.eu X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:277734 Archived-At: Le lundi 25 octobre 2021, 14:05:29 CEST Eli Zaretskii a =C3=A9crit : > > From: Richard Stallman > > Cc: larsi@gnus.org, galex-713@galex-713.eu, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2021 22:18:40 -0400 > >=20 > > > aaaaaaaaaaaa bbbbbbbb ccccccc xxx xxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > dddddddd eeeeeeee fffffff ggg yyyyyy yyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyy > > > hhhhhhhh iiiiiiiiii jjjj kkkk zzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzz zzzz > > >=20 > > > where buffer position of the first "xxx" follows the buffer > > > position > > > of the last "kkkk"? > >=20 > > That's exactly what I had in mind. But we should not assume that xxx > > are consecutive with kkkk. We could be looking at the middle, > > vertically, of the two columns; their top and bottom could be > > off-screen. >=20 > Why would that make sense? You will be unable to read the text > without scrolling the window. In the way you imagine it, that is directly unpractical for reading, but=20 practical for the one usage that I re-suggested initially: enabling a=20 WYSIWYG text processor inside emacs. You may want to visualize pages=20 bigger than what fits on your screen, because it will be rendered on other,= =20 bigger screen, or unzoomed, or printed. In a way you may not be imagining: both column contents could be=20 unrelated, such as on stallman.org, and yet the most right column would be= =20 considered to be =E2=80=9Cafter=E2=80=9D the most left column, there, it wo= uldn=E2=80=99t be=20 unpractical, because maybe you want to read only one column.