From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#10868: 24.0.93; `comment-style' needs to be explained Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:01:08 -0800 Message-ID: <3251750A293C4D74AAB64FD8672192CE@us.oracle.com> References: <7AF76478FD534B8B9A07E9FB79060E64@us.oracle.com> <5b4nuizqj9.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1329937307 15682 80.91.229.3 (22 Feb 2012 19:01:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:01:47 +0000 (UTC) To: "'Glenn Morris'" , <10868@debbugs.gnu.org> Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 22 20:01:46 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S0HRg-0001lP-9W for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:01:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44803 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S0HRf-0007Dt-A3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:01:43 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:55153) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S0HRc-00075g-0B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:01:40 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S0HRa-0003R9-Rq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:01:39 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:47721) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S0HRa-0003R3-QL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:01:38 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S0HTu-00077G-3c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:04:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:04:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10868 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 10868-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10868.132993742627325 (code B ref 10868); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:04:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 10868) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Feb 2012 19:03:46 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51344 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S0HTe-00076g-FP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:03:46 -0500 Original-Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]:51575) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S0HTb-00076S-8R for 10868@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:03:45 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q1MJ1Af2016742 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:01:11 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q1MJ19qq007173 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:01:10 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt120.oracle.com (abhmt120.oracle.com [141.146.116.72]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q1MJ1985010225; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:01:09 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:01:09 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <5b4nuizqj9.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Thread-Index: AczxkSryOFUlAl+9TYqV7AXmeZRQ5wAAWDKQ X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090206.4F453B79.00AB,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:57107 Archived-At: > > Read the bug #3370 thread, if you want to understand the problem. > > Unfortunately, I did. It is long-winded and goes nowhere. > I encourage everyone else not to bother. Is it really so hard to understand? "the doc string for `comment-style' (which is pretty much useless) refers to `comment-styles', which is not recognized (and therefore has no link)." emacs -Q C-h v comment-style Style to be used for `comment-region'. See `comment-styles' for a list of available styles. C-h v comment-styles Bzzzzt -not recognized - no such variable, no such "list of available styles" ... until you load newcomment.el. There is a user option (`comment-style'), which you can customize. But its doc tells you nothing useful. It just refers you to an internal variable (`comment-styles'), which has no doc until you load its library. The doc for `comment-styles' _is_ helpful ... once it becomes available. Here is a case where we actually autoload a user option, `comment-style', so its (useless) doc is available prior to loading the library. But that doc string just refers you to a variable (constant, actually) whose doc (the advertised "list of available styles") is not available until you load the library. Bravo. Thanks for helping users out. > > There is no _explanation_ of `comment-style'. > > Right, well, good luck with your future bug reporting. So constructive.