From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18086: 24.4.50; NEWS entry for `kill-region' Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 09:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3236f48c-0797-49ca-ab5e-17a90c7e4e1d@default> References: <2099c598-0d39-441d-92f8-f3bbc570a08b@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1406132342 11714 80.91.229.3 (23 Jul 2014 16:19:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 16:19:02 +0000 (UTC) To: 18086@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 23 18:18:56 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1X9zFi-0002uA-Uc for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 18:18:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46033 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X9zFi-0005xe-Fv for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 12:18:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53753) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X9zF6-0005Cm-8X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 12:18:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X9zEw-0006nc-Us for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 12:18:12 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:40496) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X9zEw-0006nX-RK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 12:18:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1X9zEw-0007ua-2l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 12:18:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 16:18:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18086 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 18086-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18086.140613223530267 (code B ref 18086); Wed, 23 Jul 2014 16:18:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18086) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jul 2014 16:17:15 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35762 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1X9zE6-0007rs-Pv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 12:17:15 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:22386) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1X9zE0-0007qv-Ma for 18086@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 12:17:09 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s6NGGvoH001549 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for <18086@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 16:16:58 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7022.oracle.com (aserz7022.oracle.com [141.146.126.231]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s6NGGuQv028637 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <18086@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 16:16:57 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0016.oracle.com (abhmp0016.oracle.com [141.146.116.22]) by aserz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s6NGGuFi028629 for <18086@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 16:16:56 GMT In-Reply-To: <2099c598-0d39-441d-92f8-f3bbc570a08b@default> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:91757 Archived-At: > From the beginning, and forever prior to Emacs 24.4, `kill-region' had > this signature: (kill-region BEG END). That includes Emacs 24.3. >=20 > Starting with Emacs 24.4, this is the signature: > (kill-region BEG END &optional REGION) >=20 > 1. This change should be called out in NEWS. >=20 > 2. Instead, there is this entry in NEWS for Emacs 24.4, under > "Incompatible Lisp changes in Emacs 24.4": >=20 > ** `kill-region' has lost its `yank-handler' optional argument. >=20 > This is incomprehensible. It never had a `yank-handler' optional > argument. I was apparently wrong about that last statement (and so too about the first statement, that in 24.3 the function accepted only two args). [However, I do not really understand, and have no time to research this now: in Emacs 24.3, emacs -Q, `C-h f kill-region' does NOT show parameter YANK-HANDLER. But in the 24.3 source file simple.el, YANK-HANDLER is present. Perhaps the simple.elc distributed by GNU is older than the addition of YANK-HANDLER to simple.el?] The NEWS entry should state not that the YANK-HANDLER parameter was removed but that it was replaced by the REGION parameter etc. And of course there SHOULD have been a NEWS entry for 24.3, stating that parameter YANK-HANDLER was added. If it is not too late, that should be added now. Without it, mention of YANK-HANDLER in the 24.4 entry makes no sense.