From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>
Cc: "Clément Pit-Claudel" <cpitclaudel@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: Sandbox subr-x? (was: `thunk-let'?)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2017 15:54:48 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <322d40f7-de9a-4841-99ec-2b92fec438d7@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87efp7vyny.fsf_-_@web.de>
> > I questioned only the purpose of having a library, apparently
> > `subr.el',
>
> (I think you mean subr-x.)
Yes, I do; sorry.
> > whose _purpose_ is to act as a sort of sandbox of stuff that, for
> > whatever reason, someone doesn't consider quite ready for primetime.
>
> I don't have a strong opinion about it. But I think the approach works:
> interested people use this stuff - privately, but also in Emacs - and
> the stuff develops. Stuff that proved useful can later be moved to
> other places. OTOH, if you think about things that happened there (like
> `when-let' and `if-let' having been obsoleted and replaced by `if-let*',
> `when-let*' and `and-let*', not long after that had been added), it is
> not too bad that not every Emacs user and package developer had already
> used it.
If it works, it works. I can't argue much with that.
I think that if Emacs dev thinks a sandbox is helpful then it should
just use GNU ELPA, or a specific `sandbox' part of GNU ELPA, for that,
instead of a single file, `subr-x.el' that is part of the distributed
Emacs-Lisp code.
Better to put stuff being experimented with in files with names
related to that stuff, whether temporary or not. Having a single
sack of anythings named `subr-x.el' is not a great idea.
> But maybe subr-x is also a symptom of limited manpower: if we had hordes
> of people volunteering writing and updating documentation, we would
> probably be less reluctant to fully integrate and document this stuff in
> the first place.
That's not my position, at least. I don't think the current
state of having a single `subr-x.el' sandbox delivered as part
of Emacs follows from having limited manpower or would be
finessed by having more manpower.
(And something half-developed can also be half-documented...)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-11-09 23:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-10-08 20:12 `thunk-let'? Michael Heerdegen
2017-10-08 22:25 ` `thunk-let'? Michael Heerdegen
2017-10-09 3:10 ` `thunk-let'? Stefan Monnier
2017-10-09 11:40 ` `thunk-let'? Michael Heerdegen
2017-10-09 14:07 ` `thunk-let'? Michael Heerdegen
2017-10-09 14:27 ` `thunk-let'? Michael Heerdegen
2017-10-09 15:38 ` [SUSPECTED SPAM] `thunk-let'? Stefan Monnier
2017-11-08 17:22 ` Michael Heerdegen
2017-11-08 18:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-09 15:14 ` Michael Heerdegen
2017-11-09 18:39 ` `thunk-let'? Michael Heerdegen
2017-11-09 18:48 ` `thunk-let'? Stefan Monnier
2017-11-22 2:50 ` `thunk-let'? Michael Heerdegen
2017-11-22 3:43 ` `thunk-let'? Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-22 16:16 ` `thunk-let'? Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-22 19:25 ` `thunk-let'? Michael Heerdegen
2017-11-22 20:00 ` `thunk-let'? Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-23 2:59 ` `thunk-let'? Michael Heerdegen
2017-11-23 4:15 ` `thunk-let'? Michael Heerdegen
2017-11-23 16:34 ` `thunk-let'? Pip Cet
2017-11-23 23:41 ` `thunk-let'? Michael Heerdegen
2017-11-24 8:37 ` `thunk-let'? Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-24 8:51 ` `thunk-let'? Stefan Monnier
2017-11-24 9:16 ` `thunk-let'? Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-24 13:33 ` `thunk-let'? Stefan Monnier
2017-11-27 5:21 ` `thunk-let'? Michael Heerdegen
2017-11-27 13:34 ` `thunk-let'? Stefan Monnier
2017-11-27 15:44 ` `thunk-let'? Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-30 15:19 ` `thunk-let'? Michael Heerdegen
2017-11-24 8:36 ` `thunk-let'? Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-30 15:17 ` `thunk-let'? Michael Heerdegen
2017-11-30 16:06 ` `thunk-let'? Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-01 8:02 ` `thunk-let'? Michael Heerdegen
2017-11-23 16:04 ` `thunk-let'? Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-22 17:44 ` `thunk-let'? Gemini Lasswell
2017-11-22 18:04 ` `thunk-let'? Noam Postavsky
2017-11-22 18:31 ` `thunk-let'? Michael Heerdegen
2017-11-22 18:29 ` `thunk-let'? Michael Heerdegen
2017-11-22 19:54 ` `thunk-let'? Stefan Monnier
2017-11-22 22:47 ` `thunk-let'? Michael Heerdegen
2017-11-10 10:01 ` [SUSPECTED SPAM] `thunk-let'? Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-08 18:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-08 22:22 ` `thunk-let'? Michael Heerdegen
2017-11-08 23:06 ` `thunk-let'? Drew Adams
2017-11-09 17:20 ` `thunk-let'? Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-09 17:39 ` `thunk-let'? Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-11-09 18:06 ` `thunk-let'? Michael Heerdegen
2017-11-09 21:05 ` `thunk-let'? Drew Adams
2017-11-09 23:07 ` Sandbox subr-x? (was: `thunk-let'?) Michael Heerdegen
2017-11-09 23:54 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2017-11-10 7:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-09 21:48 ` `thunk-let'? Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-11-09 22:43 ` `thunk-let'? Michael Heerdegen
2017-11-10 7:48 ` `thunk-let'? Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-09 18:14 ` `thunk-let'? Michael Heerdegen
2017-11-09 20:26 ` `thunk-let'? Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-09 23:13 ` `thunk-let'? Michael Heerdegen
2017-11-10 7:58 ` `thunk-let'? Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-11 15:20 ` `thunk-let'? Michael Heerdegen
2017-11-11 15:40 ` `thunk-let'? Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-10 10:10 ` `thunk-let'? Nicolas Petton
2017-11-09 14:34 ` [SUSPECTED SPAM] `thunk-let'? Michael Heerdegen
2017-11-09 17:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-09 15:19 ` Michael Heerdegen
2017-10-09 8:00 ` `thunk-let'? Nicolas Petton
2017-12-08 20:38 ` A generalization of `thunk-let' (was: `thunk-let'?) Michael Heerdegen
2017-12-08 21:16 ` A generalization of `thunk-let' Stefan Monnier
2017-12-09 10:33 ` Michael Heerdegen
2017-12-10 4:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-10 5:34 ` John Wiegley
2017-12-12 14:41 ` Michael Heerdegen
2017-12-13 13:52 ` Michael Heerdegen
2017-12-13 14:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-13 14:37 ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-01-12 20:03 ` Michael Heerdegen
2017-12-09 21:59 ` A generalization of `thunk-let' (was: `thunk-let'?) Richard Stallman
2017-12-10 17:03 ` A generalization of `thunk-let' Michael Heerdegen
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