From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: `isearch-allow-scroll' - a misnomer and a bad design Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 06:22:28 -0700 Message-ID: <319B99EA14134F768E998E2341596F7C@us.oracle.com> References: <8739g0vyuy.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <4E6FF63A.4070604@gmail.com><2F1337889F394491BA778ACA46799812@us.oracle.com><874o07m3ay.fsf@maru.md5i.com> <20110921090406.GA2537@acm.acm> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1316611381 16983 80.91.229.12 (21 Sep 2011 13:23:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:23:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Michael Welsh Duggan' , dan.colascione@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, 'chad' To: "'Alan Mackenzie'" , "'Dani Moncayo'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 21 15:22:55 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R6MlI-0003ns-Jo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 15:22:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35812 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R6MlF-0000RF-CW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:22:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:51558) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R6Ml9-0000QL-HT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:22:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R6Ml8-0002vg-Iz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:22:43 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]:20124) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R6Ml8-0002pc-6J; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:22:42 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id p8LDMaT7028069 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:22:38 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8LDMZDV001124 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:22:35 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt102.oracle.com (abhmt102.oracle.com [141.146.116.54]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p8LDMTec013431; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:22:29 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.58.151) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 06:22:28 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <20110921090406.GA2537@acm.acm> Thread-Index: Acx4PgJfhqfDv6DnTHO/p40HMA8CsAAIvg1A X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090202.4E79E51F.0151:SCFMA922111,ss=1,re=-4.000,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 148.87.113.117 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:144149 Archived-At: AFAICT, we are all agreed with the proposal to put this under user control, by providing an option. Richard (and possibly others?) disagrees that the default value of the option should let `C-u' pass through - he prefers that the default value exit Isearch. But he has agreed with giving users the option. At this point, my concern is that we get the option into Emacs now, regardless of the default value. Can we please commit Alan's patch before the pretest? Use whatever default value you want, but let's please let users control this now. Thx.