From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sebastian Urban Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#48504: Improve style of C-h t description (Preface) Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 22:35:37 +0200 Message-ID: <3195631d-1f4c-2b55-b7ed-9bb919458c76@gmail.com> References: <83im3frgsr.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30989"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.10.2 Cc: 48504@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue May 18 22:36:21 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lj6Rx-0007zX-0r for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 22:36:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40446 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lj6Rw-0007EK-0d for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 16:36:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48428) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lj6Rd-00078o-V6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 16:36:01 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:45873) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lj6Rd-0003WM-Mf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 16:36:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lj6Rd-0000aI-KN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 16:36:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Sebastian Urban Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 20:36:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 48504 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 48504-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B48504.16213701502227 (code B ref 48504); Tue, 18 May 2021 20:36:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 48504) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2021 20:35:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57419 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lj6RR-0000Zr-V2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 16:35:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ej1-f44.google.com ([209.85.218.44]:44942) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lj6RN-0000ZZ-Ag for 48504@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2021 16:35:48 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ej1-f44.google.com with SMTP id lz27so16592018ejb.11 for <48504@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 18 May 2021 13:35:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8qiE4p+Oj1KUNW9eP7dKkcWUVCS7+2QBPwc2RUcQNgw=; b=mUyiuRjWTSihMheJj9dYJcM0EvCZZbqr4vNmbiUZK0fVwT9E4/E6lpgiK3lzO/aV8F AR6dlxpamm+6GIXOWgbTIPYJZ6tnTL3d69XGHoxF1cVjLHE5yQ1rICpsHv8SbyNFB6q7 l5GMM0zGWyPdE58Rnd/usYExvHj9DKHLt98jGGXVo4YE1K9cnZZLAa5d8jJaE24aU3Vf fnkSqx8vv1/Q5Mf6d/lSC105Y8aY5WaMl3tACbNdyuYePPBXF8t6gks2s+pS8PF5UkUo fTJw0Da1JeVuPpiYW2iQc4yG5Ayj/UrJkY5tJG6EXMFq5jYT4GmNO9w+P7UxlRvxu+0n tb+w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8qiE4p+Oj1KUNW9eP7dKkcWUVCS7+2QBPwc2RUcQNgw=; b=Ivvvy4pIqfrQOMbzY1Tqb2BcUbanNRTmuwOSwTZjZV9/C0kei+rFCvaEBYWZDzwetO L7FPnVxVRyG4SnguzW6S6mNsZZpGNycrQSYJXpmGNOly3n2w3SOBNuGBQcbQ0XxLvYcp mCI0kLZ7zuum+br2fDyCD4P22KaXK3fsVYMnSwgnz4+s/QlnLtYEZcO1ZTPTE7WLtXCb mqd4fLNM8bcBoOYQtzSNFmR8Jou14PCYQOX4GNoN0+3qYCSD//6MmRlAbdHX6K2dRn8S M4/gDndpDrWDsTbWue2qtrnA8etBmMZVKyNFwU/WKkvrnMgcAtv8lpHeYbDDMeaMCDt9 MD6Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530XcPzlMvsqu6MfS0A2mY4Z5PCLM/oTqsqMqFZIshPiCcl74ZwY IjRmSIRIzytFMsTU78IMX4HUeruBxyU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzMEokZuuXFPSq2fbWJpBYhPzJKxoXRkFCC0ItcvPCtVd2tGNRm1TVJs48etGTwj6rO3tnTxQ== X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:6289:: with SMTP id nd9mr7838546ejc.384.1621370139398; Tue, 18 May 2021 13:35:39 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from ?IPv6:2a00:f41:c95:4fcf:71d6:4fd9:186:1b56? ([2a00:f41:c95:4fcf:71d6:4fd9:186:1b56]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e23sm12451550edr.80.2021.05.18.13.35.38 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 18 May 2021 13:35:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83im3frgsr.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-GB X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:206837 Archived-At: >> Currently, in the Preface of the Emacs manual (EMACS.TEXI - L1291), >> there is: >> To run the tutorial, start Emacs and type @kbd{C-h t} (which is >> ``control h and then t''). >> >> I think, the part between parens should look better, e.g. similar to >> this part of SCREEN.TEXI (L126): >> ...(hold down @key{Ctrl} and type @kbd{x}, then let go of >> @key{Ctrl} and type @kbd{=})... >> ...i.e.: >> ...(hold down @key{Ctrl} and type @kbd{h}, then let go of >> @key{Ctrl} and type @kbd{t}). > > We didn't yet introduce the Ctrl etc. notation at that place. What about "Control" instead of "Ctrl"?